But you've claimed that you "believe that even Keynes realized he was wrong before he died."
And Keynes was not a socialist. After he was made a lord (not a title a socialist would normally accept) he sat with the Liberals in the House of Lords. There were Labour peers at the time, and he did not vote with them.
You really are off on some other planet.
------ Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
--------------------------- You're being stupid. You have no need for money now, you could keep it on computers, which you do.
But the "money" could be structured slightly differently and result in a totally different society.
And by the way, wealth distributed fairly is NOT "dissipated".
--------------------------------- Of course they would. They just can't get anything from anyone individually, they get ir from All Of Us, as the State.
--------------------------------- No, that doesn't follow at all. Labor recorded by the State and goods produced that are collected by the State enable a trade economy, but of a particular type, one where one may only sell-to, and buy-from, the People's State.
---------------- Non-sequitur. You just rattle on and pay no attention.
----------------- Ridiculous.
----------------------- Nonsense, I already responded to it at great length. Your server must be cheap and cheats you.
-Steve
One such response:
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---------------- No, fool, you record your personalized labor done FOR the State WITH the State and SPEND it TO the State to buy food FROM the State. Moron. Labor is recorded in hours and after you labor your fair share, your minimum, the excess can be used to purchase consumer devices or it expires if not used and cannot be transferred to any other person because it is personalized to you specifically in the data system.
---------------------------- You're sophomoric. It has nothing whatsoever to do with societal modern division of labor.
--------------------------- No, you'll just be lying.
-------------- No, you're just lying intentionally and with no logical regard. The wealthy would be LOTS poorer, the rest of us would be MUCH better.
----------------- Nope.
-Steve
------------------ No, you're just so far to the right that the middle of the road looks Leftist to you.
-------------------------- No, you were simply brainwashed.
--------------------------- You always lie. That's because you're unable to speak logically.
-Steve
---------------- Yes it is.
----------------- I bet I have, you have trash for a newsserver, you've obviously missed most things you didn't write, or else you can't read, only write!
-Steve
--------------- That's because Rightists like you are only able to lie, and are unable to argue against it logically.
---------------- Hah! You're a simpleton!
---------------------- You don't even grasp what socialists think of Keynes!
-------------------- No, he merely points out that the supposedly "unseen hand" is true of any distributive system, and unrelated to the societal goals, and that the best info comes from directly controlling the market, and not from letting it wander into other people's yards like a goat.
------------------------------------ The so-called "free market" COUNTS on people's ignorance of what is happening to permit capitalists to STEAL! We NEED better info merely to PUT AN END TO IT!
------------- That's because people who REALLY UNDERSTAND Capitalism become Socialists or Communists and try to CHANGE IT!
-Steve
Very nice, Steve (you might work "pablum" into there too), but I stopped reading these threads at around 1,000 posts. ;-)
Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 14:53:26 GMT, "C What I Mean" Gave us:
You are an idiot. Changing the topic header, and not quoting any previous text means that nobody knows what the f*ck thread you are spewing about. Bone up on usenet.
I think he's talking to the ghost of Spiro "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism" Agnew, not you.
Mark Zenier snipped-for-privacy@eskimo.com Washington State resident
It would be helpful to learn what thread you are posting about!
Harry C.
Ah, of course, and I say that with some *certitude* (with deference to Howard).
Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
the local library and check out the
Douchebag, I own it -- I don't need to.
OKAY!
Thanks, Pup
uumm.. I see that this wound up going a lot of places and didn't really post only where it was desired. It is the thread under alt.engineering.electrical heading "a new hope for the working engineer". I have hundreds of answers displayed under this thread. It has been going on and on and on....
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Hey Harry,
If you dislike the thread, than simply DON'T read it.
Paul
He's the guy whos engineers work 70 hours a week. He likes running other people lives.
"Nukie Poo @verizon.net>"
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He was obviously referring to this thread. But you just had to go and keep it alive anyway.
Howard Who?
Mark Zenier snipped-for-privacy@eskimo.com Washington State resident
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:09:15 GMT, "Brandon Berg" Gave us:
You are an idiot. For one thing, you don't know how to post properly in usenet.
Number two: Not everyone reads usenet posts in the same way you do, thread boy.
Number three: When you change the header of a post, it is no longer part of the "thread", YOU started a NEW thread, ya ditz.
Most folks read chronologically. I don't need or shouldn't need to re-sort my post headers just to see what you are babbling about.
You are so clueless, in fact, that you make an overltly long thread look like normalcy. It is, actually. You are the abnormality.
Then you did it again with this post. So now we have a lame thread where we discuss weather long threads are lame, or the idiot twit that started a new thread pissing and moaning about them.
Bone up on usenet, ya little idiots. Your complaining post was, and still is WHACK. It is up to YOU, now, to step to the pump, and get up to speed with the rest of the world, which was, until your lame asses wussied in, doing just fine.
The ghost of Howard Cosell.
Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
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