160V DC from UK 240AC mains?

May 25, 2004 4 Replies

I just found a bunch of gas discharge displays in my scrap parts bin (see

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for the same type) and coincidentally need a few 7-segment displays for a project. Using these would look pretty cool.



UK mains voltage is 325V peak to peak (give or take 15V), half of which happens to give around 162.5V which would be enough to run these displays.



Switch-mode power supplies generally seem to feed mains in through a fuse, isolating transformer, and then into a bridge rectifier and smoothing caps.



I have a spare one which would be ideal for supplying power to the ICs which can drive these displays, and I'm wondering if I can also use it to supply the high voltage DC needed.



a) is there a cunning way of just getting the 155-170V DC that I need? I was thinking of sticking the PSU's bridge rectifier output through a potential divider circuit to generate the voltage I need (these displays are pretty low current). Would a half-wave recifier added in past the isolating transformer on the PSU and a large smoothing capacitor be a better bet though? (my worry there is that on a 'low' mains supply of 220V the 155V DC might not be enough to run the displays)



b) Say I go for the potential divider approach running off the PSU's existing bridge rectifier. I'd want a common ground between the rectifier output and the power supply's normal GND output so that I could use the display driver IC's that I have to drive the displays directly. There's no continuity between the bridge -ve output in the PSU and the eventual PSU's GND though, so I can't help feeling that coupling these directly together is asking for trouble!! :-)



Do I need to use a completely seperate isolating transformer, bridge, smoothing cap, potential divider etc. running off the mains in parallel with this switchmode, and *then* couple the grounds together?



cheers



Jules


230VAC is around 650 volts peak to peak. 120VAC is 160 volts peak.

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Jules If you want ot live to a ripe old age I suggest you try Electronics 101 before you do any more. A switch mode power supply is not anything like you say and the rest of your theories are too off to comment beyond saying. A little knowledge is Very Dangerous in Mains electrical practice.

John G Wot's Your Real Problem?

No that's what conventional power supplies do. Switch mode power supplies do thigs differently. ...

Mains in Fuse Noise filter Rectifier High voltage caps to make DC etc and then lots more.

If you need to ask how then you shouldn't really attempt it. Sorry to sound negative.

On Tue, 25 May 2004 15:49:03 +0100, the world was enlightented by Jules, unto whom the words are attributed:

Yes.

Forget messing around with switch mode psu internals - they're precisely tuned devices and can produce /very/ high voltages internally. Buy a 240

- 110v (ie UK to USA voltage) isolating transformer, and rectify and smooth the 110v side - this should give you around the voltage you need, unless I'm very much mistaken. You can connect the grounds together. Don't kill youself (this is important).

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