I wasn't able to attend SOPC World. (really wanted to)
Can anyone share info from Altera's roadmap for these products? I'm working on a commercial product with the Cyclone and Nios and look forward to even more of this amazing technology.
Also, a question about the pricing of Stratix I vs. II.
Is the 40% lower price a marketing number or a real number? I mean are they playing games with equivalent LE's vs. ALUT's or will the roughly equivalent chips really be 60% of the current price?(what's $200 now will be $120)
I ask because a 40% discount would bring the SII into the price range for our products, and I'd love to have the DSP features. Or will the Cyclone II get some of this?
Stratix II was announced this week. You can find out all about it at
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To answer your questions: The "equivalent LE" counts are representative of what the typical user will experience moving an existing Stratix design to Stratix II, as measured on a suite of real user designs. The ratio is based on an average, and since the logic architecture has changed significantly, the exact number of Stratix II ALUTs compared to Stratix LEs will vary somewhat from design to design.
I'd strongly suggest reading the "Stratix II Performance and Logic Efficiency Analysis" white paper available on our web site
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It gives a (real, experimentally determined) histogram of relative logic density between Stratix and Stratix II, plus a lot of useful details on what the ALM can do.
I cannot comment on pricing; I'm an engineer and as such I only understand numbers that don't have $ in front of them.
As for Cyclone II, Nios II, and MAX II, we have not publicly disclosed much more than cheaper/faster/better, which you could probably tell from the "II" in the names. I don't know what was disclosed at SOPC World -- your Altera rep may be able to fill you in. Please see
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for a description of our 2004 road-map, and stay tuned for announcements about these exciting products!
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