Editor?

"... [We are closing] the CodeWright Business unit ..."

The executive summary.

"... this strategic move will create exciting technical synergies ..."

80's MBA codswallop for "I haven't the foggiest what we are doing or why we are doing it, but 'exciting strategic synergies' sure does sound good.".

"... and directly benefit the customer base ..."

Bend over.

"... [CodeWright will continue] as-is ... unsupported ...

Here it comes ...

"... [we have] not yet set a date to discontinue the product ..."

You are screwed.

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That's going back. I think the port of Alter from MDS-III/ISIS-II (?) to PC Dos was called Aedit. And I think there was an Alter-80 for the old MDS-I & -II.

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Does anyone remember ALS8?

It was an editor/assembler/debugger (and I use the term very loosely) that was burned into a multitude of EPROMS plugged into an s100 card plugged into an IMSAI or Altair. Exquisitely horrible.

And US$299 is charged for this??

Now, if only I had the complete list of the customers who are buying such a product at such a price under such conditions!

Jon

To those amongst us that are ancient enough to have fond memories of editing the holes in punch cards or paper tape then anything that got the job done was not bad.

"Adapt, Overcome, Survive!" (if anyone watched Heartbreak Ridge).

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You and me both, it's currently the editor of choice for me (Ver 6.0e). I switched to it after Borland bought BRIEF and shot it in the head.

I'll keep using until I'm forced to move over to something like Slickedit and use it until Borland buys it and shoots it in the head, then I'll switch to another editor until Borland buys it and shoots it in the head, eventually I'll be using Emacs, until Borland sues on some patent issues, wins, and shoots it in the head.

If you can't tell I have lost a lot of respect for Borland, who at one time, many years ago, I actually thought had the ability to give MS some competition with their cross-platform compilers, etc.

I love that last sentence in the first paragraph of the open letter:

"Borland is committed to providing developers with freedom of choice and enabling developers to build better software, faster."

Yeah, yeah, and "War is Peace", and that used car dealer on the TV really wants to give me his best deal, and cigarette companies really care about my health...

-Zonn

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My nominations:

Runners-up:

TJ-2 (TJ="Type Justifier") running on a DEC PDP-1

"Expensive Typewriter" running on a DEC PDP-1

Wang OIS-140 (see

and )

The worst:

Word processing on a Friden Flexowriter *without* a PDP-1. This is done by cutting and pasting (literally!) the paper tape.

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  You've brought back some memories for me. I used a character editor on an RCA COSMAC system back in the early 1980s. I can't remember much about it now, but I do remember counting characters on the line:   vi seems positively intuitive compared to it. :)

Ian

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Of course, that (Emacs) also is often nominated as the *best*.

Personally, I loved TECO.

Rufus

[...]

When I first used CREDIT , about 1983, I thought I'd died and went to heaven. Of course, the only other editors I'd used to that time were line editors (or worse), along the lines of (and including) MS-DOS' edlin. CREDIT (which stood for something like CRt EDITor) was a full-screen editor, and allowed me to move the cursor wherever I wanted and just start typing (or deleting). Stone simple and very intuitive.

I did get angry with it one day, though. Our MDS systems had two floppy drives, one containing the ISIS system software (including CREDIT), and the other free for data. I spent about two hours composing a report. When I was done, I tried to save the file. I neglected to specify the data disk, so CREDIT tried to save it to the system disk. No room. CREDIT dies with an error message. Work gone. Sigh.

The second version of the report was much better, though. I guess Fred Brooks' advice to "write one to throw away" applies to reports as well. It was a "lessons learned" memo written just before I left a completed project to start on a new one. The new project had EMACS. I never looked back.

Regards,

-=Dave

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Always fun to run "hunt the wumpus" from it, too!

Jon

Nice one ;-)

I'll remember that for the future.

Ian

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(This is the first time I have ever written something, looked at it, and decided to put it in my own quote file...)

CREDIT, at the time was great. It is just that it was primitive compared to later editing programs. One big problem was that we had two machines, one old one with CREDIT and a newer one with ALTER. IIRC ctrl-D on ALTER was delete word (or line, or something else useful - it was 20 years ago ;-) ) on CREDIT ctrl-D aborted the session, followed by loud swearing.

Ian

Only because its users are particularly fanatical.

IAn

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Ian Bell wrote in news:crjvfh$ai1$6 @slavica.ukpost.com:

As opposed to the users of other editors who claim the same things?

The best editor is whatever works best for you for what you need to do, for some that appears to be Emacs, for others it is a wide variety of other editors.

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No, many can be quite fanatical too. However, IME EMACS users are the

*most* fanatical.

Precisely.

IAn

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Ian Bell wrote in news:crkbj5$bvi$1 @slavica.ukpost.com:

I find vi users to be equally as fanatical. Generally those are the two groups that I find to be most fanatical about the subject.

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Richard

I would agree that vi users are at least a very close second when it comes to fanaticism.

ian

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