Minifon P55 wire recorder , pocket size of mid 1950s

Anyone aware of any pitfalls for the unwary renovator? Its been in an English garden shed for 40 years. But all mechanicals seem to be ok ,despite patchy rust and grime. Spool bearings and sprung tri-ball retainers function, "winch-winding" head up and down mechanism works, motor turns by hand, "capstan" cylinder rotates, and deck slides across on piano key activation. All rubber parts perished. One electrolytic has its aluminium case corroded to dust. I intend getting just the mechanicals in working order , hook the play head up to a modern tape recorder amplifier to hear what is on the wire drums, before looking at the electronics proper. All 3 peanut valves and all the rest of the electronics seem to be present. At least the previous owner removed and discarded the 3 batteries 40 years ago. There is one brand new Protona set of spools with security tape around the outside of its case but also yellow thread with Protona logo stamped lead seal on this thread linking the spools. What is that security aspect about , I cannot find a www reference to that.

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anyone know of a www higher resolution version of the schematic on the last of the second page?

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I found the rubber drive belt was unobtainable, but eventually came across a substitute by following the route taken by my local postman. For some reason, red G.P.O. rubber bands seem to outlast the ordinary type you can buy in the shops.

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I can usual fashion-up rubber parts with no problem , rubber tyre, belt and brakes on this all gone west. I was concerned about the plastic from this era. Nothing cracked as far as I can see but I'm aware stress can build up in this sort of plastic and sometimes literally explode to fragments/dust. I was wondering if there was a way of passivating this potential problem or monitoring for it.

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I've not heard of any particular problems with these machines, although yours does seem to have had a particularly hard storage life. German plastics were pretty good in that era (self-destructing neoprene came a little later).

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I didn't know what sort of plastic. I knew an antiques dealer once and she had a plastic grill on a Dancette or something distintegrate into pieces on moving the cabinet, not touching the grill. I once witnessed an old Thermos vacuum flask cap explode with a surprisingly loud bang when the sun got on it, disintegrated to dust and tiny flakes.

I think I can see the original problem area as someone had loosened a screw in that area . The stop slideway works but the rewind slideway is jammed. The piano key pushes a quadrant arm that pushes the spool-swapping slideway for the drive , the quadrant is not turning but not due to 40 years of rust probably.

Does T on the schematic translate as nano as in nanoFarad and how does A arrow W of the switch posistions translate to play/record or engaged / disengaged or forward/rearward

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I've just noticed that the peanut valves are Mullard make , in a German made recorder

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I'm starting to find differences from this schematic

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orientation of triple ganged master switch is different I cannot find the fast acting switch parallel to the seriesed end or reel switches

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I can see why the 2 end of reel switches are in series but not why that "switch" is in parallel with another one , the fast acting one, as it will do nothing unless at the end of reel , which has to act before the fast one , so what is the point?

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So a mistranslation, for "fast acting" read short duration momentary on. There is some sort of leaf switch under the master sw bank although I cannot see any wire to it without removing the master sw. This is activated by the stop slideway. Indeed, should a reel stop, with the end of wire spring-out lever touching an end sensing switch then the motor would be locked out without such a fudge or manually turning the spool. Presumably p19 of the user manual about the red light coming on at end of spool

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