Why does my server's redundant supply only have 12V?

It's an old Dell R410, with supplies DPS-500RB (12V only) and D480E-S0 (12/5/3.3V). If the second one died, the first one can't make the server still run, as there's no 5V or 3.3V!

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Commander Kinsey
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Who cares, ya buck tooth limey.

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Colonel Edmund J. Burke

from the manual:

" 4.1 Power Supplies " The R410 is powered by a non-redundant 480 W power supply (Dell P/N " F238K) and redundant 500 W power supply (Dell P/N F649J).

Seems to be some sort of marketing speak (by which I mean incompetent or intentional unthruths).

It seems the 500W unit is hotplugabble and can replaced from the back of the machine (like on machines with redundant power-supplies)

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However the 480W is cabled to the main board and you need to open the case and unlug the cables to replace it.

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Jasen Betts

That sounds likely.

So if the 500W failed, it would keep running, but if the 480W failed, presumably it would shut off since there's no longer any 3.3 or 5V? So unless I need more than 480W, the 500W supply is pointless, unless it makes the 480W last longer?

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Commander Kinsey

It would probably quit in both cases, else they would have built it with two 480W mixed-voltage powersupplies.

the 500W 12V only supply is probably used in some other chassis, in pairs, as a redundant powersupply, just the marketing guy is ignoring the the fact that in this application (Dell R410) it is not redundant.

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Jasen Betts

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Oh well, I have an extra supply now which I'll convert for GPUs.

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Commander Kinsey

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Oh well, I have an extra supply now which I'll convert for GPUs.

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Commander Kinsey

Are you building a new computer for yourself?

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David_B

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Commander Kinsey

That's a very noble thing to be doing. THANK YOU.

I'll have a study here and see what I could do personally to help:-

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David_B

I was already doing it for fun and to help out astrophysics projects, I added Rosetta to the mix when the virus appeared. You can set up Boinc with as many projects as you wish and alter the priority of each.

It's a pity these projects don't hand out money (to at least cover the cost of electricity), then I think they'd get 10 times as many people doing it. They already have a brilliant system so you can see how much work you've done, and if you're doing better than others, so it would be easy to apply a small amount of money to that.

I believe the program will run on any CPU under Windows, MacOS, or Linux. If you have a good graphics card, you should go for Folding at home instead, as it can use that too.

Even mobile phones running android can run Rosetta. Not sure what you can run on Iphones.

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Commander Kinsey

+1 Rosetta RO
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Ray Otwell

Be sure to ask BD what his configuration/hardware is on the machine he sets it up on. He loves technical stuff. []'s

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Shadow

I've downloaded BOINC and installed it on my old iMac.

I chose Rosetta@home but I'm not certain what further action I should take. How can I tell if my machine is being used?

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David_B

How old is your iMac?

There's a screensaver; you can watch it work.

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Quick guide to Rosetta and its graphics

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Intel 64-bit Mac OS 10.11 or later

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Mike Easter
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Mike Easter

If your old iMac is too old OS X, folding@home will allow 10.7 on Intel 64.

folding@home is actually a bigger project *

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  • wp Folding@home is one of the world's fastest computing systems. With heightened interest in the project as a result of the 2019?20 coronavirus pandemic, the system achieved a speed of approximately 1.22 exaFLOPS by late March 2020 and reaching 2.43 x86 exaFLOPS by April 12,
2020,[7] making it the world's first exaFLOP computing system.
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Mike Easter

The Boinc interface is a piece of shit. I installed "Boinctasks" (in addition to, not instead of Boinc) which shows everything nicely in full colour and better organized. It also lets you monitor more than one computer on one screen. Not sure if it runs on Macs.

But you should see something like this in the Boinc manager - this is mine in Windows on one of my machines:

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The status column tells you what's running, the progress column tells you how far through the task it's got, etc.

You can see your position in the world here:

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Commander Kinsey

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Does folding at home do biology research on graphics cards? Boinc only = has physics on the graphics cards.

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Commander Kinsey

Mid-2007 - 24" Now fitted with 500GB Solid State SATA Drive

iMac7,1 6GB RAM Running OS X El Capitan

Thanks, Mike. I'm watching right now! :-)

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David_B

Can you see in Boinc what speed it says about your CPU? Tools menu, run CPU benchmarks. Then go to tools, event log. I get this on one of mine:

Mon, 27/4/2020 08:16:42 PM | | Number of CPUs: 6 Mon, 27/4/2020 08:16:42 PM | | 5069 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU Mon, 27/4/2020 08:16:42 PM | | 14441 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

I'm wondering if that wastes computing power that could be doing the calculations faster.

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Commander Kinsey

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