re and RE (AoE)

From "The Art of Electronics" second edition, p.81:

"the load sees a driving impedance of re = 25 ohms, since Ic = 1mA. (This is paralleled by the emitter resistor RE, if used; but in practice RE will always be much larger than re)"

I don't get it. Why would re be paralleled with RE. Shouldn't RE be in parallel with the load and both in series with re?

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M. Hamed
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** You can draw it like that, but the emitter end of "re" is a virtual ground under zero signal condition.

Means all three are in parallel.

.... Phil

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Phil Allison

Draw a picture and think virtual grounds (or sources). ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

"The load sees..." refers to the equivalent output of the overall emitter follower. Imagine removing the load and "looking into" the emitter follower output.

The load port sees the emitter impedance (re) looking up (25 ohms) and the pulldown resistor (RE) looking down... 1K maybe. They are effectively in parallel, net about 24.4 ohms.

Small-signal, the emitter follower looks like a 24.4 ohm source, which any attached Rl would then load down.

If you look at it your way, with the load connected, as you say "RE be in parallel with the load and both in series with re" you'll get the same final, loaded gain. Win was just calculating the follower output impedance before the load was connected.

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John Larkin

I get it now. Just seems to be a convoluted explanation

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M. Hamed

Source impedance seen looking back _from_ the load. ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

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