How much current can, in general, a pcb trace withstand? Is there any general guidelines that I need to be aware of so that I don't end up burning them up or do i need to measure the resistance and compute the max current? I plan on using a max of about 2 amps at around 40 volts and I'm wondering if my pcb can handle it and if I need to worry about the trace width?
Thanks, Jon
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Noway2
The current carrying capacity is going to depend on the trace width, plating thickness, and allowable temperature rise. As the trace width and plating thickness go up the resistance goes down and the temperature rise drops with it. The resistance will be a function of the (volume) conductivity of copper.
Here is a link to a website that I found with a quick google search:
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I don't know how accurate the results are but if you can find a couple of calculators that agree or find the formulas for copper conductivity and temperature rise you could verify the results.
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John Fields
Yes, you need to worry about trace width.
I just posted a nice nomogram for you with the data you need at:
news://pj1kv1le1ent0hqo1kp1dja5mrmbjl8eo7@4ax.com
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Dan H
Your PCB can certainly handle it but you do need to worry about trace width
Dan
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Abstract Dissonance
huh?
is this suppose to be a link? Cause its not working...
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Abstract Dissonance
Well, Since 20awg wire can only do about 1 amp(thats what it says on the insulation of the 20awg wire I have) then it seems that a trace of 0.040in just falls short(assuming a depth of about 0.005in(a guess but it doesn't seem that deep on my boards)?
Jon
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Abstract Dissonance
ok.
Thanks, Jon
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Noway2
It really isn't that complicated.
The thickness on the boards is based upon the plating thickness in oz (per square foot I think). You choose the thickness of the plating you desire, .5oz, 1oz, 2oz, or 3oz and knowing this value you can then determine the necessary width of the trace to allow X amount of current at Y temperature rise. If your current draw is operating at a high frequency you will need to account for skin effect which will decrease the effective thickness of your copper.
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Brian
There are a lot of variables there. For example, is it an internal or external trace. How much of a temperature rise do you want on the trace. How thick is the trace.
For example, a typical temperature rise of 10 degrees Centigrade and at 2 amps: EXTERNAL TRACE:
1/2 ounce trace -- trace width at least 0.055"
1 ounce trace -- trace width at least 0.028"
2 ounce trace -- trace width at least 0.013"
INTERNAL TRACE:
1/2 ounce trace -- trace width at least 0.205"
1 ounce trace -- trace width at least 0.103"
2 ounce trace -- trace width at least 0.052"
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Abstract Dissonance
ok... atleast I have some general ideas now.
Thanks, Jon
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DJ Delorie
You're confusing the current rating of the wire's *insulation* with the thermal characteristics of the bare copper on a PCB. Insulation melts at a much lower temperature than copper[1].
A given cross section of copper will have a certain temperature increase for a given current. More current, more heat. More copper, less heat. You choose a copper size based on how much heat you can tolerate. For example, in a 70F room with a 110F limit on heat, you design for a 40F increase in heat due to resistive losses in the copper.
Wiring is different - it's rated according to how hot it can get before the *insulation* fails and you get a short.
[1] although I hope you don't design based on the melting point of copper! There are other considerations, like how hot your ICs want to get, etc. The melting point of the glue holding the copper onto the PCB might be a consideration, for example.
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PeteS
Get a copy of the old, free PCBTEMP (used to be available from UltraCAD, but I believe it's no longer available at their site). It's a handy tool for such things.
Cheers
PeteS
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JeffM
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:sN5Zsx5RCxAJ:
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Abstract Dissonance
Ok, I think I understand. Basicaly the in both cases heat will be generated but in the case of wire the insulation has a lower melting point than on a PCB(which is due to the type of material and the size?)?
Thanks, Jon
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DJ Delorie
Yes.
Technically, the insulation has a maximum safe temperature, and your PCB has a maximum safe temperature, with "safe" defined accordingly for each. Your project could have a different and unique definition of "safe" for example. Enclosure temp, thermal cooling of other components, heatsinks, etc.
But in general, you can't use the current ratings of wires as a guide to the current ratings of traces.
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Rich Grise
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It's a message ID - copy it to your clipboard, migrate to news:alt.binaries.schematics.electronic and paste the message ID in the appropriate "find message ID" place.
Good Luck! Rich
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