WTF would ANYONE buy a WIn 7 PC?

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Of the world? Not sure, but very likely more than half need them for something.

I find dosemu/freedos runs DOS applications better than MSDOS ever did.

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I didn't move any goal posts. AFAIK over 12% of US persons (meaning born here or legally here) are foreign born. That is not at all an insignificnt percentage.

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You moved the goal posts (all the way to Siberia) when you "generalized" the group who needed to protect their birth certificate because it may be difficult to replace to every individual on the planet.

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The scope of participants in this group is ... worldwide :-)

Where did I ever indicate goal posts restricted to within the US?

I run a lot of my old DOS stuff under DOS Box. With a DPMI client running, even my old DOS protected mode schematic and pcb program runs perfectly fine in 1024 X 768.

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No one ever said it was. However, not every person on the planet needs a safe deposit box to protect their birth certificate, as you seem to think. ;-)

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Sure, you can also put it in the box under the old couch in uncle Leroy's barn :-)

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I don't think so, Tim. Ol' Leroy's barn has a higher probability of burning than my house. ;-)

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Michael

You're nuts--dosemu is as brittle as can be. The best DOS is still IBM PCDOS 7.1, which knows about FAT32 file systems and has the Y2K fixes. You can get ~600kB low memory free, and it doesn't crash. I'm actually looking for a full copy that I can install under KVM/QEMU.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I actually bought this at one time, and likely still have it, shrink wrap and all. I do have Win 3.11 and an old MS-DOS in those conditions. Likely, the day after I die, they will become valuable collectors items. Right now, my Tandon 10MB original XT drive is worth $10.

Doesn't the newer DR-DOS also have FAT32 R/W ability?

Aside from that, the reason the emulators *would* be a more viable solution would be the file system contentions the old legacy stuff has.

Still, you may have to find it already installed, or install it yourself on an old legacy machine, and then copy that installed image into your KVM system.

I have an original copy of IBM's DOS-2000! I think that was the last one.

XP runs an OK dos, but doesn't allow port i/o. DOSBOX is supposed to do that, but I haven't tried it.

TOTALIO also opens up direct port access under Windows.

John

There was a DOS 7.1, after PCDOS-2000 (2003), also. It included the FAT32 stuff.

I've found it to be rock-solid (dosemu 1.2.0 compiled from source on this machine).

I have actually run IBM PCDOS 5 under dosemu. That was good, but I prefer freedos for its UNIX-like extensions. I don't have to remember to type "dir" instead of "ls", and I still have cp, mv, cat, grep, cmp and rm.

I don't have any fat32 filesystems.

The main problem with DOSEMU is when you have a program that uses lots and lots of PF keys and so forth, or that does BIOS video tricks. Freelance and WordPerfect 5.1 both crater it regularly. Dosbox is more stable, but slow as molasses even on a fast machine.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Nearly ALL flash memory 'sticks' are formatted as such. Walking around with an EXT formatted one is pretty useless.

You have to get to know that settings and learn how to give it more timeslices. You can even do it while it is running and from editing the settings file(s).

A good benchmark is a fractal gen app or a CPU emulator running code, like the MAME arcade game emulator.

You should be able to get some real good performance if it gets set up right. You can also give the overall process more cpu power from the main OS controls.