windows 10

I had a HP business tablet running windows 8.1. By only installing Microsoft approved security updates and vendor driver updates it is now so seriously stuffed that just getting emails can take 20 minutes and it chokes after reading 2 or three of them. Open 2 windows at once "out of memory. windows must close the important program so it can remain happy". the ssd disk runs at less than 100k per second. In other words it's totally stuffed.

I replaced it with a lenovo laptop with windows 10. It looks to me like Microsoft tried very hard to keep all the annoying and sometimes even stupid features of windows 8 while adding a few more of annoyances as well (ok it is a bit better than win 8). Microsoft has taken away any joy in using a computer and replaced it with a mean spirited jail warden who wants to stop you using anyone elses programs and it even puts up a nag screen if you use something other than edge for the internet!

POS! Hang on to whatever you have that you have and like for dear life! The next iteration is going to be shit. I have used Linux - not a big fan of all the archaic, often irregular commands, but win 10 drives me very close to going back.

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There are plenty of Linux distros nowadays that don't require anything much in the way of familiarity with a command line terminal (even though it's there if needed for the nerdy stuff, thank f*ck). But for sure anyone even remotely serious about computing will not be using Windows!

Check out this link:

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Dump Windows and never regret it.

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Best, easiest, current distro with the most out of the box stuff is Ubuntu Studio

Might as well use a fresh daily build. I don't get any problems.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

The quality of Windows has become irrelevant to me. We became an all-Linux shop when they forced us onto their new EULA, which allows them to upload anything they want off my hard drive, without asking. I have NDAs and court protective orders that conflict with that, not to mention our own proprietary stuff.

I could go to jail if Microsoft uploaded stuff covered by a protective order. No thanks.

As the wise man said, "Microsoft doesn't have customers, they have prisoners."

Cheers

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Phil Hobbs

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I assume you meant 'download anything they want' because 'upload anything' is just for their 'fixing' their issues. I prefer OSX, finding

MS Windows too annoying to bother relearning. Switching to Linux later should be relatively simple once OSX gets too restrictive.

John :-#)#

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John Robertson

'Upload' means going from a smaller computer to a bigger one. Since MS controls all Windows computers, they can do whatever they want. The EULA gives them permission.

I bought my last Apple computer in 1984, and they promptly gave me the shaft. I'll never deal with them again, as far as I can help it.

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Phil Hobbs

How about a backup of important stuff then reload win8 fresh... ? I had the same problems with win7 and I bit the bullit and got a win 10 AIO. Said 'no' to all the option installs. Installed win7 lookalike desktop and it's almost no different to my old win 7 but runs like a dream off SSD.

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TTman

gone all-Linux here too a few years ago haven't looked back, not only is their EULA insane (as I recall it had a provision where by using win 10 they have an automatic royalty-free license to all your content, WTF! don't know if that's changed) its performance wrt disk I/O is shit

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bitrex

1998 - you need software to use the Internet 2018 - Internet required to use software
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bitrex

I warmly recommend Mint Linux. It's Ubuntu based but is apparently more user oriented. I have used it now for close to a year and have no regrets. It shuts down and boots in seconds rather than minutes, so I don't bother with hibernating unless I'm doing something I'd rather not interrupt.

Yngve.

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Yngve Dahlstr?m

I got XP Pro Corp, when it doesn't run I will most likely no longer have Wi ndows, or just have it on one system. The others will be Linux, MAC or anyt hing else I can find.

I don't even like Vista, UAC failed me and I lost a bunch of files from it installing a program without asking. What happened to that little window as king me if I am doing this ?

People have warned me how vulnerable i am but I don't see it. I have less p roblems with these XP boxes than anything else except for newer program com patibility. Well, if I have to relearn all this shit then I might as well l earn Linux. I am not completely unfamiliar with it but I need to spend alot more time with it before I can even think about really using it.

Yeah, this version of XP will not allow any EXE off the net to run without specific administrative permission and that has nothing to do with the AVG on it. I don't really need that but better to have it...right ?

I wish I could go back to 98SE. I bet a modern virus won't even run in it. I can see "fuckupmypc.exe telling me I have to upgrade my OS. Dropbox did a nd they are gone, and one time a virus bugged me incessantly to update my J ava. It used to only do it on bootup but one day it was doing it every minu te. After updating all the sudden I got a virus, which AVG Free took care o f efficiently. Actually being familiar with the registry I can take care of some of them myself, as long as it will boot into safemode. Actual AVG cat ches everything anyway, and it doesn't need virus definition updates becaus e it uses heuristic reasoning.

Not bad for free.

I am not on this merrygoround and i am not being led like cattle to the sla ughter in the never ending cycle of hardware needs new software and softwar e need new hardware. Fuck all that.

My wallet is closed. Maybe others want all the shit the new shit gives you, but what I am seeing is that hey DON'T want all that shit. I mean i think Cortana is vying for the most removed software on the planet, probably even beats the trial versions of McUseless and Nogood's that these jokes that c al themselves computer companies stuff on a new system these days.

And BTW, you say Win10 is not sending information to the home planet ? Try god mode.

Simply name a folder {ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C} with whatever n ame you like and a period ahead of the above. Look at all the shit you can turn off.

You can find it all and do it without this but who knows how long it will t ake to find everything. That and reading the whole EULA for Win10 will have you learning Linux in notime at all.

Fuck them.

(god mode does not work in XP but there is no need for it in XP)

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jurb6006

snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news:c0134576-a4a0-46c1-bf49-9687a978cff0 @googlegroups.com:

Wow. If you are so dumb as to say this "I don't see it" crap, then you are way too dumb to even know what to look for.

The likelyhood actually is that your machine is completely compromised.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

That's what they all say, but it is still running. I never reboot either. T his system is compromised, but by errors, not hackers or attackers.

Are you good with XP ? I have a minor login issue,I wanted it to stop promp ting for a password and now made it worse as I have to type in the username ! I didn't even have to go into the registry to f*ck that up.

The problem came about because since the printer and all the good files are down here, and we have power outages...I just wanted it to boot up by itse lf when the power is restored. I could get into the CMOS and set that. The only other problem ids there is a Win 2000 Pro partition on one of the phys ical drives on which a secondary partition exists from which I boot. That m akes it throw up a OS boot choice, but IIRC it goes away after so many seco nds and takes the default which is XP, so that would be fine, but it is the Windows login I can't seem to clear, and I have NO IDEA how to do it in th e registry so I am not going to try. At least right now. So be it, the thin g does more faster than anything I have seen since. More of what I want it to do anyway. And a reload is out of the question, it took me YEARS to get this thing the way I want it.

Oh, and security ? I don't do commerce on the PC. Seriously, if I need stuf f from Digikey or whatever I will select my stuff online and then call them . I do not eBay anymore since they went to Paypal. I want nothing to do wit h them MFs. And I stopped doing commerce online period when I got the no li mit card. Fuck that.

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jurb6006

Peppermint Linux is good. I've installed it on some older laptops and apart from using it myself, my two not computer savvy sisters-in-law are happy with it for all the basic functions, and are, I suppose, less likely to pick up something nasty.

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The Amish will welcome you with open arms.

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I don't believe in machine being totally stuffed like that. There is something using up most of the CPU, memory or disk bandwidth (or it hasn't got enough free space on one of them). Win 8.1 is a bit of a dog but it is better than the useless mongrel 8.

I'm no great fan of Win10 but it is marginally less annoying what Win

8.x although not as stable as Win7. It doesn't help that they keep on issuing untested upgrades for it that brick peoples machines.

Cltr-Alt_del and look at the task diagnostics to see what is hogging the machine and where it is resource starved. Chances are it would get a new lease of life if you added a bit more memory. Other possibility is that the disk is about to fail. My SSDs have only ever failed in a very binary fashion (here today gone tomorrow) but failing spinning rust disks tend to grind a machine to a standstill when on their last legs.

Software is one of the things that gets more reliable the longer it has been running for (up to obselecence). You never want to be the recipient of brand new software running on the very latest hardware unless you have absolutely no other choice. It is even worse these days because of the ship it and be damned culture so prevalent in software development.

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You're welcome.

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Chris

Chris wrote in news:pua2ca$btp$ snipped-for-privacy@gioia.aioe.org:

Actually, that page and many of the utility downloads, learning sheets, etc. are quite useful.

"coreinfo" is a really good one. My CPU seems to do just about everything except AMD stuff.

Windows PowerShell Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> \temp\coreinfo

Coreinfo v3.31 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology Copyright (C) 2008-2014 Mark Russinovich Sysinternals -

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Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1505M v6 @ 3.00GHz Intel64 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel Microcode signature: 0000008E HTT * Hyperthreading enabled HYPERVISOR - Hypervisor is present VMX * Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization SVM - Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization X64 * Supports 64-bit mode

SMX * Supports Intel trusted execution SKINIT - Supports AMD SKINIT

NX * Supports no-execute page protection SMEP * Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Prevention SMAP * Supports Supervisor Mode Access Prevention PAGE1GB * Supports 1 GB large pages PAE * Supports > 32-bit physical addresses PAT * Supports Page Attribute Table PSE * Supports 4 MB pages PSE36 * Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages PGE * Supports global bit in page tables SS * Supports bus snooping for cache operations VME * Supports Virtual-8086 mode RDWRFSGSBASE * Supports direct GS/FS base access

FPU * Implements i387 floating point instructions MMX * Supports MMX instruction set MMXEXT - Implements AMD MMX extensions

3DNOW - Supports 3DNow! instructions 3DNOWEXT - Supports 3DNow! extension instructions SSE * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions SSE2 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2 SSE3 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3 SSSE3 * Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3 SSE4a - Supports Streaming SIMDR Extensions 4a SSE4.1 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1 SSE4.2 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2

AES * Supports AES extensions AVX * Supports AVX intruction extensions FMA * Supports FMA extensions using YMM state MSR * Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions MTRR * Supports Memory Type Range Registers XSAVE * Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions OSXSAVE * Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions RDRAND * Supports RDRAND instruction RDSEED * Supports RDSEED instruction

CMOV * Supports CMOVcc instruction CLFSH * Supports CLFLUSH instruction CX8 * Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions CX16 * Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction BMI1 * Supports bit manipulation extensions 1 BMI2 * Supports bit manipulation extensions 2 ADX * Supports ADCX/ADOX instructions DCA - Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device F16C * Supports half-precision instruction FXSR * Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions FFXSR - Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction MONITOR * Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions MOVBE * Supports MOVBE instruction ERMSB * Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB PCLMULDQ * Supports PCLMULDQ instruction POPCNT * Supports POPCNT instruction LZCNT * Supports LZCNT instruction SEP * Supports fast system call instructions LAHF-SAHF * Supports LAHF/SAHF instructions in 64-bit mode HLE * Supports Hardware Lock Elision instructions RTM * Supports Restricted Transactional Memory instructions

DE * Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE DTES64 * Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses DS * Implements memory-resident debug buffer DS-CPL * Supports Debug Store feature with CPL PCID * Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE INVPCID * Supports INVPCID instruction PDCM * Supports Performance Capabilities MSR RDTSCP * Supports RDTSCP instruction TSC * Supports RDTSC instruction TSC-DEADLINE * Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer TSC-INVARIANT * TSC runs at constant rate xTPR * Supports disabling task priority messages

EIST * Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep ACPI * Implements MSR for power management TM * Implements thermal monitor circuitry TM2 * Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control APIC * Implements software-accessible local APIC x2APIC * Supports x2APIC

CNXT-ID - L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS

MCE * Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE MCA * Implements Machine Check Architecture PBE * Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin

PSN - Implements 96-bit processor serial number

PREFETCHW * Supports PREFETCHW instruction

Maximum implemented CPUID leaves: 00000016 (Basic), 80000008 (Extended).

Logical to Physical Processor Map:

**------ Physical Processor 0 (Hyperthreaded)

--**---- Physical Processor 1 (Hyperthreaded)

----**-- Physical Processor 2 (Hyperthreaded)

------** Physical Processor 3 (Hyperthreaded)

Logical Processor to Socket Map:

******** Socket 0

Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:

******** NUMA Node 0

No NUMA nodes.

Logical Processor to Cache Map:

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Logical Processor to Group Map:

******** Group 0 PS C:\WINDOWS\system32>

Pretty informative and safe as it is from MicroSoft themselves.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

Y'know they have no cancer, diabetes, heart disease and all kinds of shit.

Of course neither do I.

I want 98SE back. I bet a modern virus won't run in it at all. HAHA, update ?

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jurb6006

snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

No, idiot. What they 'have' is no statistics.

Yet you think you can spout them as if to be fact.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

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