which component has exponential i-v characteristics down to 1 pA?

Nov 25, 2004 8 Replies

Looking for a circuit element that is pretty exponential in i-v down to about 1pA. Maybe even 10pA. Starting from maybe 10nA. Trying to simulate a vacuum tunnel junction for STM. I know a lot of stuff has this, e.g. diode, jfet, bipolar, but I don't have a good idea if they pitter out at such low currents. For example, I think a particular diode has exponential iv with one slope from 10mA-.1uA, then a different slope from .1uA to 100pA, then pitters out after that.



Even though I'm looking for "only" 4 decades of exponential-ness, I don't think it is a good idea to get these 4 decades at a higher current, and then divide down the current, coz that adds a lot of noise. Oh yeah, I'm looking for low noise too.



Thanks



OK, don't use that diode!

I'm sure there are many small high-beta BJTs that continue to work well in the pA region, but I haven't taken measurements lately and don't recall right now where to look for some old ones. But I did post on one of my web pages some diode measurements that show good results to 1pA for PAD-1 diodes and 2n4117A gate-source junctions, see

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The curves show logarithmic linearity over seven to eight decades.

I should revisit these parts and extend the measurement below 1pA, using my lab's Keithley electrometers, recently-acquired on eBay. One of my instruments, a 642 with remote head, goes down to 100aA.

Thanks, - Win

Just as you would your Engineers, if you were a manager. Make sure to tell them that the company is doing "just great" from time to time.

Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com

You might try using an ordinary display LED. I've measured them to have leakages of less than 50 fA over -5V to +0.5 V, so they don't go ohmic near zero bias the way silicon diodes do. Make sure you keep it in the dark!

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

Probably about $50k per year.

Thanks, - Win

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Hi Win, I was just wondering how much tech stuff do you/Rowland.org buy off Ebay?

martin

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"alan" wrote

Hey, we suggest them for everything else: Why not use a PIC?

TIM -> A/D -> PIC -> D/A

Any simulation curve you like ...

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Zeke snipped-for-privacy@zyzzly.net wrote

Use a PIC! Drill a hole in both ends of the PIC and insert into the broken linkage, crimp broken linkage ends to secure.

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