Warning to people and companies: Do not use MS internet explorer.

On the few occasions that "Windows Explorer" froze I just closed it and opened it again. I usually didn't have a problem, unless the computer had been on for over a month, though.

BTW, I bought a new "12 Volt Jump-Start and Power Supply" with a damaged case for $20 yesterday to harvest the 17 AH 12 V battery for my UPS. The old battery had recently died, and I didn't want to spend $100 for a new battery. Now, I should have less problems from 'Progress Energy' frequent short dropouts and brownouts. They wanted a huge rate increase to 'harden' the system so they have been playing their dirty games for about a year.

It also has a heavy duty battery disconnect switch, an expanded scale voltmeter, lighter socket, 12 VDC .5 A wall wart, a cigarette lighter charging cord and several other goodies to salvage. Someone had swiped the AC power cord, though. I bought another, on sale for $29.95 so I can see if either of the old power wheelchairs I have are worth fixing before spending over $250 on a pair of the proper batteries.

The second unit will be used to power some 12 V items during power outages, or when I get one of those, 'My car won't start!' calls. :(

This is how many Windows based programs seems to work.

When you open a new web page after program start, new virtual memory pages are obtained from the OS and included in the process specific working space. Then normal user mode malloc() calls allocate buffers for the web pages from this working set.

When a web page is closed, the buffer is freed and moved into the process specific user mode dynamic memory free area. However, these pages are _not_ returned to the OS and they are considered by the OS to "dirty" pages, so these unused pages must still be saved into the page file. Thus the size reported by Task Manager does not drop.

The idea is that when subsequent new web pages are opened, the buffers are first taken from the process specific dynamic memory pool. If there are no more space in the pool or if the request is for a buffer larger than the longest contiguous area in the dynamic memory pool, new virtual memory pages must be obtained from the OS, increasing again the working set.

Thus, you should close pages no more needed on a daily bases, instead of doing a big weekly cleanup, on order to prevent the working set maximum size from becoming very large.

When the working set becomes as large as the physical memory, everything moves slowly, since there is a constant swapping between RAM and the page file on disk.

Jim Thompson Inscribed thus:

Similar here ! Top reports 170M with 6 windows open.

Michael A. Terrell Inscribed thus:

Windows is really crap at managing memory. Still if they (M$) improved it, not as much hardware would be sold. ;-)

I use 3.0.14 on SuSE Linux.

total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2071880 1184076 887804 0 56780

-/+ buffers/cache: 200624 1871256 Swap: 2104472 0 2104472

Open another tab and

total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2071880 1185528 886352 0 56840

-/+ buffers/cache: 201792 1870088 Swap: 2104472 0 2104472

It appears that my system doesn't use very mush memory just to display a new page.

Making something more useful may increase sales. I know at least one case where if a PC could have done the job, it would have been sold instead of a bit of custom hardware. Even though the custom hardware had fewer parts in it etc, the PC would have been a lower cost way to go because so many more of them are made.

Informationstechnik)

PC.

No, the Winbloze Zone.

"krw" kirjoitti viestissä: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

I have ie 7

-ek

Google doen't have much to say about which browser its customers use. I suppose they could just test for the browser type and refuse to run on IE. But the wailing of Microsoft fambois would be heard for miles.

fa_N_bois ;-) ...Jim Thompson

It seems like Google is gradually getting worse. Google search returns more of irrelevant chaff and less of hits then it used to be. It is not just my impression; I know some folks who noticed that also.

BTW, I expect Google to be the next bubble which is going to burst.

Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant

That's why I started using BING Some searches show less than 5% of the hits on Google, and what I am looking for is on the first page.

Jan Panteltje schrieb:

... Outlook Express, Microsoft Windows Mail, Microsoft Windows Live Mail:

Falk

fLamebois ;-)

Dimbulb and Phyllis?

DimBulb certainly is a M$ Flamebois.

I used to suspect he was a Microsoft shill, but on reflection, I don't think even Ballmer would be that stupid.

-- "Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it." (Stephen Leacock)

Not all shills get paid to be stupid. Some willingly work for free. :(

Then there are idiots like you two that act stupidly because you do not know any other way.

It doesn't get much more retarded than Terrell, expounding to the world as if he has the facts on ANYTHING, but blatantly showing all that he, in fact, knows very little, if not, nothing at all.