voltage divider calcs

That depends on whether you need a bug fixed.

I'll

E12-E96 series

database, which would

Groucho could have done -40.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

We're not *quite* that bad. ;-) It was a P4 with XP. Office '07 killed it, so they finally bought me a new system. Why they wanted to go to Office '07, I'll never figure out. It sucks.

Get real.

series

database, which would

Now you sound like Slowman.

They probably upgraded for the same reason most people end up doing so: somebody in the documentation pool (often, where available, in an administrative support position) upgrades. Everyone else using those documents discovers that the between-version interoperability just isn't quite good enough, or is too slow, or doesn't exist at all. So, they need to upgrade and then the upgrade push gets into *their* documentation pool, and so it goes.

Not that Microsoft ever intended for that to happen, of course.

Could be, but I think IT just needed something to do. When they installed Office '07 I sure gave it to them. ...with both barrels. What a POS.

Of course not.

I didn't say that you would get it, just that you'd need it. :)

I am still using WIN3.11 for workgroups, have not needed any bugs fixed by M$. You dont need a new or refurbished OS or computer every 2 years.

On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 05:23:16 +0200) it happened Sjouke Burry wrote in :am still using WIN3.11 for workgroups, have not needed any

Exactly Still running a 10 year old Duron 950 Mhz as server, and Linux of course. All backuped 2 x. When all applications run, there is no reason in the world to upgrade OS.

To be honest, nothing really new, a killer application one *must* have, has happend in the last 10 years....

Poor people that keep buying the crap.

workgroups, have not needed any

Google Earth.

John

There is more to calculate then resistor dividers. I have a Casio fx-115MS calculator which allows the user to edit the equation. In most cases one of the component values is known so it takes only a few attempts to determine matching E12 or E24 values.

On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:43:00 -0700) it happened John Larkin wrote in :

workgroups, have not needed any

Yes, but that runs fine on my Duron 950, in Linux. Not something you need new hardware for. Google maps exists too, in the browser... I did route planning with it once, got stuck and had to go visual -:) Netherlands is so small it is hard to get lost. One hour east to west, 2 hours north to south. OK, these days at that speed you would get a ticket.

workgroups, have not needed any

FPGA tools that actually work.

the

Do tell. I knew Vista was a horror before it even came out, and could hardly get shut of the negative buzz. But i haven't heard much bad about Win7. Maybe there is a defect in my sources.

workgroups, have not needed any

Xilinx is driving us crazy. Their support guys are under pressure to close cases, so they do the logical thing, which is close cases. Fixing things is apparently not a requirement.

The logic is, apparently, if they stall long enough, eventually a new release will be on the horizon, so they say "install the new release" and, well, close the case.

Downloading and installing a release, or a service pack, takes days. Occasionally it fixes things, probably by accident.

We're having some success with the Spartan 6, as long as you use the tools in make-file mode (the GUI is a mess) and don't do anything too ambitious, like use the DRAM controller.

My guys are seriously pushing me to go to Lattice or Altera. The silicon may not be as advanced, but the tools may be better. Dumping NuHorizons certainly didn't help.

John

My last new computer had windows ME, ten years ago.

On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:12:01 -0500) it happened " snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote in :

workgroups, have not needed any

You could have switched to Altera in 2000 :-)

workgroups, have not needed any

Ah, the Microsoft model.

Yes, and even if it doesn't fix the problem, a new case is opened. That does fix the problem (in their measurements system).

Thanks. I guess I'll cross Spartan 6 off the list, at least for now.

I'm having no problems with Altera's software, so far. I haven't pushed a design out for real but I have gone through the process. From my perspective I don't see much difference between Altera and Xilinx Spartan 4. I don't need the speed of either, though.

I've pushed the design though the Actel tools, too. No issues with the software but the hardware only has three-input LUTs which increases the count by at least 50% which blew out my estimates (and the package). That was one of the things that I liked about Spartan 6 - six-input LUTs.

I haven't seriously (far enough to run a design) looked at Lattice because their packages aren't good for the application.

I've had really good support from Arrow (Altera and Lattice). The FAE came and installed the software on my system and gave me a half day tutorial on it. They're even willing to help with the design. The sales guy is hungry. ;-)