Tww

Tww it the dimensionless factor

(how many parts you tidly-wink and lose) / (how many parts you want)

which, for 0603's, runs 0.6 or so.

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john larkin
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Not sure I got what tww is (looked it up, some domino thing so I guess I get it if so) but 0402 are significantly worse, a lot more than twice worse. And I have not yet done any 0201...

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Dimiter_Popoff

I highly recommend a good set of curved jaw tweezers, with a tiny binder clip on the hinge end. That lets you micro-adjust the tension by sliding the clip, so that they open when you squeeze them edgeways, and close very gently when you release.

Good Medicine.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

When I first saw 1206's, I thought they were tiny. Ha!

I refuse to use 0402's. I default to 0805s.

I'm tuning the tempco of a 50 MHz triggrered Colpitts oscillator. What a nuisance. It should have a 3.3 pF N4700 0805 cap, but the layout guy used all 0603s, so some engineer (who shall not be named) substituted an 0603 NP0. "NTC" does sound a lot like "NPO" I guess.

The proper 0805 cap was custom brewed for us by Capax.

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john larkin

This sounds interesting, would you please post a photo? I manage with my normal tweezers, two of those I have are good enough to get me through placing placing a lot of 0402-s, not too hard especially if the paste has not begun to dry so they stick. But yours might be helpful on less standard operations...

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Dimiter_Popoff

I often do it the other way around,the 0805 pads I make can also hold

0603. Took me a while to grasp I could do it the first time I could not find the 0805 I needed...

The temp compensations I typically have to deal with are resistor tracking. Meanwhile I know which batch of which supply I have does not track too well with which other.

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Dimiter_Popoff

Yes. It uses a SAV551 phemt as a source follower driving the usual two caps back into the tank.

Here's my temp chamber.

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I blast it with a heat gun or freeze spray to evaluate tempco. This gadget has a pretty narrow pull range PLL to lock the triggered LC oscillator to a crystal oscillator, and it will fail lock if temperature changes the LC osc frequency more than maybe 1000 PPM.

We use a digital capacitor to center the frequency to close to 50 MHz at powerup, but then it's usually cold, and can't drift more than the

1000 PPM after that.

Tedious.

DOGBERRY: But truly, if I were as tedious as a king, I would find it in my heart to give it all to you, your Worship. LEONATO: All thy tediousness on me, ah?

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john larkin

I assume that board has an MCU and with many now including on chip temperature measurement can you use the digital capacitor to do the temp compensation in software?

piglet

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piglet

Something like these:

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. You take off the silver handles and just use the black spring part. That and a little jar of acetone for cleaning flux off the tweezers makes an excellent combination that reduces the tiddly-wink problem by a lot.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

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