The use of a common credit card on Ebay?

Feb 23, 2014 74 Replies

There are two types of hackers: wholesale and retail. The wholesale hackers hack accounts and then sell them. The retail hackers use the account they buy.

You need credit card to set up a Paypal account. You set it up before you use it, and it could sit there forever if you never make a charge.

Unless something has changed. PayPal doesn't give a s*it about the credit card number as long as it passes the formula. My account was hacked twice, and once with a card I canceled. PayPal had the number since it was my card until the incident.

PayPal says they have no way to really verify the customers. Bullshit! If I ran PayPal, my security would require a charge to be made on the card at some vetted retail establishment in person. You buy a PayPal certificate, the cashier checks your drivers license, then you are authenticated. Wal- Mart, Target, etc. Well maybe not Target. But to make the person use the card once in person near when they live makes it way harder for some s*****ad from North Africa to hack you.

The gun nuts claim an armed society is a polite society. Of course that is bullshit.

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I vaguely remember, over a year or so ago,that e-bay essentially demanded that PayPal be used for ALL transactions (selling and buying). I presume that "policy" is still in effect (after all, e-bay owns PayPal and gets money from them), so this is what i think happens: (1) you present a card number (credit, debit, who cares), (2) PayPal checks number against their list FIRST, (3) if no match, you get that BS line.

Yes, a bank can do anything they want, including the reversal of an ACH you authorized, from an account apparently in control of a bankruptcy court in another state (and BTW, at no charge).

On a sunny day (Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:21:09 -0800) it happened miso wrote in :

Yes, of course if you actually _have_ a gun. using it becomes a real possibility. Here only the police is supposed to have guns, and they, or a regular basis, kill people, also innocent people who were just waiting for a train or something, because the police has that pull the trigger reflex I suppose. Here, if you hurt a burglar, YOU are wrong. So there is something to say for guns. Every criminal has one or more, the good guys do not.

There is also the world biggest weapon industry with an agenda, deaths do not count,

And the old women clubs, no more matches, no more kitchen knives, no more ???

There must be a middle way, Wild West on one side, from fear shivering old ladies on the other,

Human lives do not really count, and never have, bit of unrest here, bit of war there, some revolution here, etc etc US being the biggest producer of destruction but at home afraid of spiders so to speak. And the EU is heading the same way, now pestering Russia.. The pendulum swings, any weapon that was created will be used.

On a sunny day (Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:15:55 -0800) it happened miso wrote in :

N Affrica? Did you give your card number to that ex goverment official who wants to get 1 M$ out of the country and needed your help?

Try being a visitor to your country and trying to put fuel into your vehicle. Most pumps that we found were requiring a zip code - presumably to cross-check against some DB. Well, our cards (ex Oz) would have a 4-digit code so the system would generally spit the dummy if we tried that, and require transaction at the human cashier. Sometimes it would accept our zip with a prefixed 0, most often not, and *some* times 00000 worked a treat.

Try appending a '0' to the right.

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Around here, at least at the gas pumps, the zip code is verified against the billing zip code. I know, I've failed a couple of times, because I, when half asleep, have entered my old zip code, instead of that I just moved to. ...Jim Thompson

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Canadian postal codes have letters, but whoever verifies the codes seems to have them available, at least in a munged form. If you take the numbers in the billing postal code (there are always 3) and add a couple zeros at the end, it usually works, even though that may not map to a valid US postal code. Otherwise it's a PITA- I think the cashier has to manually key in a maximum and then refund the difference if you want a fillup, so two trips to the cashier for pay-first pumps.

Most everywhere outside the US (even Mexico) seems to have already gone or be rapidly going to a chip + PIN method, so there's no need for that stuff. All my non-US credit cards (even Amex) now have chip, PIN and RFID tap pay (the latter only for small amounts like

Give Paypal your credit card number, link your Ebay account to Paypal and then look out, it so easy to buy. CLICK, Congratulations, you won! Mikek

Of course you're a liar, but all lefties are.

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Now that's a great plan! I suppose it's easier to convict the victims than catch the perps.

There is no "wild west". Never was.

You have obviously never been to the Folsom Street Fair.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Well, I wasn't thinking about that "wild". I did go to the gay pride parade in Burlington VT, a few times (not on purpose). That's pretty wild, too. No gun laws, either. ;-)

Tried that on a few occasions, no success.

And for even more fun, use a Canadian card, where the postal code (our equivalent to the US Zip code) contains letters. Try punching that in on a gas pump numerical keyboard.

Yep, that's how it was for most of the indoors payments. very occasionally - probably about 3 times in 3 months on the road - they would manually authorise the pump start and we'd come in and pay at the end of filling. This pre-pay a guestimate is a PITA when you're in a rental, want to fill to the top and have no real idea about tank size. Not helped by our "native" units being litres and kilometres.

Nope, nor did I give it to royalty. Beyond me how these people get your credit card numbers.

But look at the mess that Africa is and was. In the scheme of things, they don't have the resources to deal with this white collar crime when people are busy whacking each other over tribal conflict or religion.

Funny thing is the internet and even cellular keep on chugging while the natives keep on plugging each other. These reporters are streaming video over 3G networks in the Central African Republic. There are parts of the US where you don't even have 3G.

If your postal code is M4S 1T9, key in 41900 as your Zip code.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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