The HELL MACHINE works!!! Was Ground tester or Hypot with 1/0 welding cable?

Dec 21, 2006 57 Replies

The magnetic core would saturate and probably result in a *less* effective far field effect. Ideally you would need to radially compress the work coil virtually instantly at the moment of peak current . . . I am sure that Gunner could come up with something suitable and some way of setting it off. If you took a road trip to Gunnerland, you could both have some fun.

As to test objects, Personal stereos (of the dirt cheap FM radio variety) and old mobiles would be worthy targets and cheaper than car stereos and computers.

If you want to video this, I suggest you put in a bid for a sheet of the Mumetal currently on RCM and make a box with a fine mesh copper screen over the lens and copper braid gaskets at all joints or maybe use an old hand cranked movie camera. I'm sure the video would be popular . . .

N.B I understand that *any* high energy discharge that does not disrupt the work coil is very hard on the capacitor bank owing to the rapid resonant current reversal. You might want to bear this in mind and make sure that the coil is always the sacrificial element if you are operating anywhere near full power.

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Come up with a reliabel car-stereo killer, and I'd be looking for ways to buy/build one...

(Gawd, how I wouldn't love to hit one of those "thud cars" with something like that... Preferably in a manner that lets them *KNOW* they've just had someone deliberately destroy their audio-blight)

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Ian, I definitely would not do anything where substantial EMI is generated.

As for sacrificial elements, I think that it is a matter of putting together a simple Excel spreadsheet to put in elements that would self destroy closer to the end of the first cycle before reversal.

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If Iggy could sneak up on the vehicle and clamp a lead to each bumper, it should kill all the electronics and maybe the idiots inside.

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

I am not so sure that it is actually true. aftet all, the car should act as a faraday cage and conduct electricity with its shell (assuming it is made of steel).

i

A Faraday shield is a complete enclosure. with bonded seams. Cars are a pile of barely connected, floating metal and plastic pieces. At the very least, it would be so magnetized that an compass would never work right, again.

BTW, the Shuttle just went over, with its double "Sonic Boom" ;-)

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

Maybe, I certain am not sure.

that was my thumper...

i

Oh it would work, probably work VERY well. One of the major things you learn about welding on a newer vehicle with a modern computer system is to pull the computer wiring to avoid blowing it up when you weld on the chassis. Seen it happen a couple times. Person will want to weld in some new steel on a quarter panel, grind and fit the new panel. Ground the welder and strike an arc and when your done welding the car won't run any more. OOPS.

Steve W.

Then it landed at the cape.

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

That's the opposite of what happens to pennies on rairoad tracks, or better yet, what happens to a _solid_ copper (not clad) penny after several trips through a jeweler's rolling mill -- you end up with a strip of copper foil up to three feet long. You can keep up the torture for as long as you like without having to anneal the penny. Coin alloys are amazingly malleable.

Has anyone tried sending a coin through a shrinking machine more than once?

Yes...

The first time through, slight "ripples" are formed along the rim of the coin due to slight force imbalances during the shrinking process. The

2nd time through, these ripples become greatly accentuated (perhaps "kink instability"?), resulting in some really ugly looking coins. Also, the first time through, the coin becomes significantly work hardened as well as becoming thicker, so that during the 2nd pass through there's much less "shrinkage" for a given energy level.

Bert

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Well, Father, my experience as a refiner of precious metals tends to disagree with the concept of endless cold working. Even pure gold gets tough after being rolled a couple times and must be annealed. After all, that's how brass is made that is sold as half hard. It's rolled cold, and not annealed.

Annealing is very much a part of rolling the non-ferrous metals, regardless of the alloy. Pennies were made of 95% copper, and a combined 5% of tin and zinc. While malleable, it work hardens just like any other alloy.

Harold

From what little I know about the subject..ahum..er..an EMP "bomb" builds up a seriously strong magnetic field in a sacrificial coil, in just milliseconds, then explodes the coil, leaving no place for the energy to go, but as radiated energy in a very large and strong pulse.

Gunner

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Ahha!! Now THAT explains West Hollywood!!

One of the few places on the planet where one can see a diminuative asian lady in black leather leading a 300lbs white guy in a leather speedo, around on a leash....

Gunner

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

coin crushers do work, I operate one. The metal is not compacted into nowhere. the crushed coins do get thicker. A crushed quarter sounds like hard plastic when dropped on a table though. It's a peculiar sound for metal.

Yes, that is in the range of hypervelocity effects, all projectiles can become armor piercing, even plastic.

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martin

Martin, someone did an absolutely fabulous job, I hope that they gave that person a prize.

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