Tek's Golden Years

Apr 05, 2016 61 Replies

On Tue, 05 Apr 2016 11:37:11 -0700, John Larkin Gave us:

Your powers of making valid health assessments rests firmly at nil as well.

Long shot, but have you a 466 anywhere among them?

I have a sick one that you can have for the cost of shipping. Was a nice scope, till one day it quit working when I put it in storage mode. Probably something simple, once it's figured out.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

No, I've never even used one of that model.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 21:45:23 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom Gave us:

The TEK list:

RSA280 Spectrum Analyzer

CSA 7404 Communications Signal Analyzer

TLA5602 Logic Analyzer

VM 700A TV Signal analyzer

TSG 1001 Signal Analyzer

2465B Analog Scope (sweet item, brand new)

AFG 3252 Arbitrary Function Generator

TDS 2024 Digital Storage Scope

TDS 2024B Digital Storage Scope

TDS 2024C Digital Storage Scope

MDO 4104-6 Mixed Domain Scope

DPO 4194 Digital Phosphor Scope

A lowly TDS 220 Scope

TG 95 NTSC Video Source

TG 1350 SDI Video Source

TG 1000 HD Video Generator

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The Agilent trinkets:

D 3000 3GHz Signal Generator

N 1996A Spectrum Analyzer

E 5100A Network Analyzer

N 9310A RF Signal Generator

And the list goes on... BOOM Shaka Laka Laka

Thanks for the kind offer, Phil. I have a sick one myself that I'm about to attempt to get working again - purely for love, obviously. I've always had a hankering for the 466 after seeing some experiments carried out with one on a BBC TV Open University course a *long* time ago. I'd take you up on your offer, but unless you're in Yurp (which I guess you're not) then even the cheapest postage is going to be a killer. It's a real shame. But please disabuse me of my ignorance in the unlikely event you're my side of the pond after all. :-)

I own one TEK 45(?) something, not sure of the last number. But it died, and now rests on the bottom shelf :^( It use to be the display (X-Y) for an old (grating) spectrometer. One thing I really love about analog 'scopes is the X-Y display. DSO's always have to take a breathe now and then.

My everyday 'scope is a TDS1001B, (I think it cost $1k when purchased new ~10-15 years ago.)* I know exactly how far away to keep it away from stuff during testing. The other DSO's I've used are noisier.

George H.

*the price of test gear today is amazingly low... I've got a rigol sig gen and scope ~$750, and that was a few years ago, even cheaper today.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:22:00 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com Gave us:

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Chili dogs (coneys) are really good too. I love em.

I miss the Cincinnati chili joints. I am really glad to be going "back to Ohio", and I am glad that "my city is not gone". It damned near is though. The last time I went there all the idiots had their pant on down past their asscracks, and ball caps on with the tags still on them and blazing white gym shoes without a mark on them. That proves to me that the retarded gang boy wannabe idiots don't do a lick of work.

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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

XY can be ratty on a digital scope. I assume it sorta samples both channels now and then.

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Analog XY is a lot smoother:

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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

Occasionally Tek launched a turkey, though (at least in the old days) most were pretty good.

The 7104, with its multichannel-plate CRT - has to be near the top. I guess there were some in the 11K series that also had MCPs - but they weren't 'first'.

{disclosure: I worked for Tek designing scopes in a couple of the groups, including 7K series, but wasn't part of the 7104 team. Got to have one of the first units on my bench, though :)

We have a 7104. It's the only analog scope that we still use.

1 GHz, visible single-shot sweep at 1 ns/div.
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

Nah, there's too much that analogue scopes can't do, especially looking back before the trigger and saving data forever. Analogue storage scopes are an intermediate case--their persistence of a half minute or so is enough to be useful. I have one, but it's broken, as I mentioned upthread.

The 2467 has better triggering than any of the others, except the TDS 694C.

My two 500 MHz 4-channel scopes are both CRT models, and are getting a bit on the dim side. I have to decide whether it's worth upgrading the displays to LCDs or whether I should just punt and get a Chinese one, e.g. a Siglent. AFAIK none of those are in the same class, but they're certainly smaller and have a lot more memory.

The newer Tek MDO4000s are pretty interesting, but they cost $12k at a minimum. I can get a lot of great boat anchors for that price.

Good to have the choice though!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

I have a 2467, which also has the MCP CRT. Nice scope. I use it about once a year, though.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

Oops, my TEK is a 503.. not much speed, but the sensitivity is nice. George H.

tds7104?

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I have one sitting in the corner, no crt in sight it runs windows

-Lasse

That's something completely different. See:

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for the real thing.

Tek and HP have little respect for their own history. The 7104 was the

1 GHz microchannel CRT scope. HP has reused the 9100 model number, and the "new" HP35 calculator is a sad cheap parody of the original.
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

Hate to say it, but in my opinion that thing is a piece of s*it. Give me an analog CRO anytime. Even if it is only 20 MHz. I do not want to see plots of dots.

I heard the 2467 was a 2465 with the MCP tube and more bandwidth. I used a 2465 and found the triggering to be s***ty, at least compared to older Teks like the 400s which had tunnel diode triggering.

Maybe I'm just spoiled.

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