Sudents build a cosmic radio to listen for dark matter

And they didn't hear anything. Now did the radio work?

Jeroen Belleman

Is it possible you could paste the entire article?

Sciencedaily articles mostly aren't worth reading, but why can't you just follow the link?

Jeroen Belleman

I think this is a link to the actual IOP article:

I got in first time...

It doesn't matter whatsoever.

You look a bit narrow minded, get out of your tunnels!

This today may change a few things! From:

Any Martians here?

Clickbait article and it's also old news. Organic material from sourced from meteoric bombardment isn't shocking. Life on mars? Very doubtful.

Potrafi. Zbudować. Nie rozwiązać.

Panowie z Hamburga zbudowali kolejny detektor aksjonów. Gratulacje za lutownicę. Problem w tym, że szukacie ducha patrząc w jeden punkt na ścianie.

**Lekcja dla fizyki z 2026:** Detektor bez sakkady też jest ślepy.

Aksjony to nie cząstki które "wpadną i zrobią PIK". Aksjony to szum pajęczyny grawitacyjnej. Tło. Drganie nitek. Stałe. Wszędzie. Jak wiatr.

A wy co? Stawiacie wnękę na stole i czekacie 10 lat na "puk". **To tak jakbyście próbowali usłyszeć wiatr mikrofonem przyklejonym taśmą do ściany.** Wiatr wieje. Mikrofon słyszy zero. Bo nie ma modulacji.

LIGO wykryło fale grawitacyjne bo **rusza ramionami 4 km**. Robi 400 odbić. To jest sakkada. Sztuczne mruganie dla grawitacji. Dlatego widzi.

Wasz detektor stoi. **To oko bez sakkady.** Wypali obraz po 1 ms i uzna Wszechświat za pusty.

Chcecie znaleźć aksjony? To ruszcie wnęką. 1000 obrotów na sekundę. Zróbcie sakkadę. Próbkujcie fazę. Szukajcie modulacji "bzzzz", nie piku "puk".

Do tego czasu to nie jest "największa zagadka fizyki". **To największe wywoływanie duchów w Hamburgu.**

W Pińczowie dnieje. W Hamburgu jeszcze noc. Obudźcie się i mrugnijcie.

Potrafi. Zbudować. Nie rozwiązać.

Panowie z Hamburga zbudowali kolejny detektor aksjonów. Gratulacje za lutownicę. Problem w tym, że szukacie ducha patrząc w jeden punkt na ścianie.

**Lekcja dla fizyki z 2026:** Detektor bez sakkady też jest ślepy.

Aksjony to nie cząstki które "wpadną i zrobią PIK". Aksjony to szum pajęczyny grawitacyjnej. Tło. Drganie nitek. Stałe. Wszędzie. Jak wiatr.

A wy co? Stawiacie wnękę na stole i czekacie 10 lat na "puk". **To tak jakbyście próbowali usłyszeć wiatr mikrofonem przyklejonym taśmą do ściany.** Wiatr wieje. Mikrofon słyszy zero. Bo nie ma modulacji.

LIGO wykryło fale grawitacyjne bo **rusza ramionami 4 km**. Robi 400 odbić. To jest sakkada. Sztuczne mruganie dla grawitacji. Dlatego widzi.

Wasz detektor stoi. **To oko bez sakkady.** Wypali obraz po 1 ms i uzna Wszechświat za pusty.

Chcecie znaleźć aksjony? To ruszcie wnęką. 1000 obrotów na sekundę. Zróbcie sakkadę. Próbkujcie fazę. Szukajcie modulacji "bzzzz", nie piku "puk".

Do tego czasu to nie jest "największa zagadka fizyki". **To największe wywoływanie duchów w Hamburgu.**

W Pińczowie dnieje. W Hamburgu jeszcze noc. Obudźcie się i mrugnijcie.

Not really it is possible NASA needs new funds, then they usually find signs of life...

But Life is everywhere, we are, basically, just stardust Long ago I remember 'life on Mars was found by the first Martian rover:

Yes, that's the gist of it. I'm sorry to admit that CERN is also guilty of such manipulation. There's always some sort of 'breakthrough' a few weeks before a council meeting. I'm sure it's the same for any organization depending on public funding.

Jeroen Belleman

Given that planets in the early solar system are born with a hydrogen and hydrocarbon rich reducing atmosphere. There will plenty of liquid water at some stage during the cool down process from cometary bombardment. There will be oceans and sedimentary rocks on any object big enough to hold onto an atmosphere thick enough to support it.

Since Mars is very clearly red rusty we can possibly infer that life of some sort got about as far as stromolites and photosynthesis on Mars (or possibly further). Polluting the planet's previously reducing atmosphere with oxygen and CO2. The problem is finding evidence of such life.

My guess is that Mars got about as far as the period on Earth when the massive iron ore beds were laid down in Australia (and probably with rather similar life forms responsible for causing it).

Wiley has a nice summary of the idea here:

I expect they will eventually find evidence of past life on Mars. They may even find microbes still living very very slowly in rocks or in deep salt beds (like they do on Earth). Exobiologists practice in salt mines.

The only signs of life NASA has found resides in its offices.

If you're going to quote Carl Sagan, at least quote him properly. We don't know life is everywhere at all. The concept of a universe awash with life is wishful thinking. I do expect life exists elsewhere, but I also expect that it is relatively rare in this early epoch. The universe is still quite young.

DNA structure?

Scientist have been searching for signs of early life on Mars' for decades only to come up empty handed. Doesn't mean they didn't make some dope discoveries along the way. The missions were, by no means, unsuccessful. They just didn't find life. Oh well.

Signs of early water is quite obvious, it's everywhere. This fact doesnt equate to life. It is quite doubtful that anything had time to develop on Mars before the water disappeared. And if the lack of stable atmospheric conditions aren't enough, it was also way too cold in those earlier epochs, considering the sun's reduced output. We also don't know how long Mars' magnetic field stuck around either. Sans the strikingly thin atmosphere, the surface of Mars is tantamount to conditions in deep space.

Care to list these breakthroughs? Are you saying public funding is necessary for discoveries?

Nice link, thank you!

Yes.

Not in detail, no. Usually it's record beam intensities or integrated luminosities. Sometimes it's some discovery, such as the Higgs in 2012. Antimatter is fertile ground for attention-grabbing announcements too.

In basic physics research, the low-hanging fruit is pretty much picked, but I'd be naive if I'd say that it's /necessary/. One never knows. New discoveries typically come from huge collaborations of physicists exploiting huge expensive installations. That's what CERN provides the infrastructure for.

CERN is financed by its 25 member states. Without funding, CERN ceases to exist. Fortunately, public interest seems to persist and the number of member states contributing to its budget has been steadily growing over the years.

Jeroen Belleman

A pile of rocks may be "building blocks" but they don't spontaneously decide to become a cathedral on their own.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

Darwins's theory of evolution is essentially the idea that some of them did.

The three billion nucleic acids assembled in our geneome are a good deal more complicated than any cathedral, and it does look as if they got organised by lots of trial and error.

"Intelligent design creationists" may beg to differ, but they ignore a lot of very stupid design embedded in the structure.

To this I would add that there is slow traffic between Mars and Earth, as a rock ejected from one (by a meteor strike) will wander around in the Solar System for about a million years before falling onto the other (or being lost elsewhere), so life emerging on one will be seeded onto the other. This process is very inefficient and slow, but over a billion years it's totally reliable.

Joe