I wouldn't put too much faith in their ability to code. They can't even build a standards-compliant Web page:
...of course Trilogy didn't do much better:
I wouldn't put too much faith in their ability to code. They can't even build a standards-compliant Web page:
...of course Trilogy didn't do much better:
martin
My favorite example of bad HTML coding (so far):
Hey, we have far fewer errors than anyone else! Must be the fantastic excellence of our Cambridge living!
-- Thanks, - Win
Barf!
So who does your web mastering?
I do mine strictly a cappella with FrontPage, no professional help at all, just pasting-in new items as they come up.
BTW, I've found copies, or scanned-in, data sheets for my standard (commercial) product designs.
I have yet to decide what else is publishable without NDA conflicts.
...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
August tick...tick...tick... September Tick...Tick...Tick... Octobrrr TICK...TICK...TICK... (remainder left as an excercise for the reader)
Low 80's here in SoCal today ;)
Bob
Well, since w3c.org is The WorldWide Web Consortium (the guardians of the HTML standard), you either are in compliance or you are generating quasi-HTML. . .
You have it backwards: Opera 2's incompatibility with the HTML *standard*.
...then there's M$IE: Internet Explorer--Superior When Parsing Broken Code
It's now Fall here in Arizona, only 90°+ ;-)
...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | |
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That just means they didn't stay in production long enough. Right now I've got a problem with a connector I designed in, in 1996. The maker has "impoved" them or maybe its because the guy who knew when to kick the machine retired.
Yesterday, I had an issue with a CD4000 part designed in in 1978. The smooth handling of ECR-ECOs is an important part of any system.
I think I'll just retire before the lead free mess hits. :)
-- -- kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge
Win *does* like to yank your Massa2shits-hating chain. . .
Which (like other M$ products that produce "HTML" output) generates unnecessarily verbose code (not great--even if you're getting a bargain on bandwidth). That code is also NOT necessarily going to render in all browsers. http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:HfqzeGpwES8J:cs195.ummissoula.net/week9.html+FrontPage-is-restricted-to-Microsoft-only-solutions+FrontPage-is-notorious-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-Internet-Explorer-*-bloated-*-*-*-unnecessary-*-code http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:9F-IeVdkou4J:
Guilty as charged. Nobody but Jim gives a hoot. Well, maybe John, who lives in San Francisco, a city that some say can beat the pants off Boston.
Our own graphics and news guy, who started with handcoding (same as I do,
-- Thanks, - Win
Not nearly as much as I like yanking Win's ;-)
I have no marital arrangements with M$.
Can I import what I have in FrontPage into Dreamweaver and clean it up?
...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Not having bothered with either, I can't speak to specifics of automated clean-up. The last item in the Encyclopedia article to which I linked talks about filters being available to do that. (It mentions WinWord specifically).
If Dreamweaver won't, it shouldn't be difficut to get something that will:
Looks like "validator" is more BS than fact.
A quick look with UltraEdit shows the attributes reported as "no attribute" ARE there, they're just turned OFF. I do no fancy/smancy shit on my website.
(I personally use Firefox with NoScript allowing only select pages to run javascript: banks, credit cards, bill paying, etc.)
However, if anyone finds a viewing issue with their browser, please let me know, listing what error messages/viewing problems you see, I'll look into it.
...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
We're supposed to get a cold snap in NE in mid Sept., followed by a week or two of Indian Summer. This year no cold snap, all Indian Summer, continuing till now. Tonight a change begins, rain and cold, down to a low of 48 at night by early next week. What a joke, we *need* a bit of serious "cold" to switch gears. How else can we get ready for glorious white snow next January?
-- Thanks, - Win
I read in sci.electronics.design that JeffM wrote (in ) about 'Stock control software?', on Fri, 7 Oct 2005:
Validator is VERY picky. But it's best to eliminate as many errors as possible. I run the ISCE web site using Dreamweaver, which is also super-critical. It flags errors that I can't possibly do anything about. Most of them are about incompatibility with Opera 2, but I don't know anyone who uses that. So, if any Opera 2 user likes to tell me whether they have problems with any of the ISCE pages, I would be grateful.
-- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. If everything has been designed, a god designed evolution by natural selection. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
Jeezis! If you have somebody who can read HTML, you could import it into NOTEPAD and clean it up! I've never seen as crappy of "HTML" as the crap that comes out of frontpage. Except, maybe, if you're trying to use Word.
Good Luck! Rich
thats quantum inturbulance for you.
hmmm, sorry but Guy Macaroon has zilltch, zero, nada errors, last time I looked. (this is really sad, chechicking out websites for errorses)
How was the Ig noble stuff?
martin
I read in sci.electronics.design that JeffM wrote (in ) about 'Stock control software?', on Fri, 7 Oct 2005:
Yes, but it goes postal over even minor faults. It should categorize errors into 'serious' and 'minor'.
**I** don't have it backwards, it's Dreamweaver that flags the 'errors'.-- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. If everything has been designed, a god designed evolution by natural selection. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson wrote (in ) about 'Stock control software?', on Fri, 7 Oct 2005:
If it claims to be .html (or .htm of course), yes.
-- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. If everything has been designed, a god designed evolution by natural selection. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
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