shipping to europe

Another view:

They have to comply.

Examples of impacts on U.S. companies

A U.S. exporter may need to ensure:

packaging is recyclable under EU criteria, excessive empty space is reduced, certain materials are minimized, required labels are present, recycled-content targets are met, and data/reporting obligations are satisfied.

Even if the product itself is legal, the packaging may become noncompliant.

Or maybe we'll just say, "Adios."

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Your choice. You simply will have fewer sales.

Or possibly play dumb.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Or, maybe comply with the regulations and itemize the cost of compliance on the invoice. I don't believe it will make excessive regulatory compliance disappear overnight, but it might attract some attention. Nothing gets fixed until someone recognizes that there is a problem.

About time, TBH. Might stop stupid stuff like embedded neodymium magnets in the cardboard box so the lid snaps shut, something you do exactly once before throwing the box in the bin (which can't be the paper recycling because it has magnets in it).

Theo

Or maybe you already did. China seems to pretty much dominate that market.

I know european manufacturers that buy CE stickers in bulk and just slap them on everything. The "to the best of our knowlege..." certification letters are cheap too.

One outfit told me that CE means Can't Enforce.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

You are absolutely expected to pass on the cost of compliance :-D

It will have no effect on the regulators, they expect it.

This week I bought a fan from Philips, and the entire package was cardboard. No expanded polystyrene. Thin plastic bag wrapping, though. It also has a label about it.

I think the CE standards for most unintentional radiators aren't that much more complex than the FCC part 15 compliance stuff, I believe they do a ESD and EMI immunity test also.

Also RoHS, which if you're buying RoHS parts and getting a device assembled at an RoHS facility using RoHS solder, then what's the problem.

They either comply or their goods will be seized at the border (and eventually auctioned off if left unclaimed).

It isn't that hard to use the right sort of recyclable packaging.

s/Europe/ROW/

Closer to home neighbours Canada and Mexico have also pretty much boycotted important US export products notably US liquor.

It will be interesting to see what happens come 1st July.

I first heard this joke in the late 1970s, about a regulation stating that one had to provide the provenance of each and every electronic component in a product. Basically impossible for any company smaller than ABB or the like. Nor was the enforcement organization even remotely large enough to chase millions of small businesses.

So people just signed the declaration and got on with life.

Joe

Individual companies, yes. Collectively is a different question. That's when other governments push back - trade prevention by excessive or misuse of regulation and the like.

This is a very old issue. I recall when France ensured that no non-French video recorder were available in French stores by individually inspecting each recorder, one at a time.

Joe

Some military buyers want "full traceability", the ability to identify every nut and lockwasher on an airplane by purchase order and receiving inspection data and, well, everything.

That does run costs up.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

About 40% of our sales are to europe.

We don't have much direct CE compliance issues because our stuff gets tested as part of a bigger system.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics