Resistor vs transformer

They are sold world-wide and imported into the US by Seven Star:

They are manufactured in Zhejiang Province, China by this group:

And they are retailed at low price by numerous legitimate US outlets:

I would allow +25% competitiveness factor for domestic manufacturer first, and pass over for critical application-as with most domestic manufacturers. This product is strictly low end consumer.

Do these units accept USA plugs? Are the plugs grounded? Do they plug directly into German plug sockets? 2 or 3 German plug sockets? What is the certification? CE, FCC etc?

Thank you

Hans

Really? Then you can tell us which US laws, statutes, tariffs, or other regulations are keeping it out. Or is it that they use different inspection standards, which will bar its entry?

Easy. Australian slaughterhouses never come up to U.S. specifications.

Build a new slaughterhouse precisely to the the U.S. specifications, and the U.S. inspectors come out and condemn it. It was true when I was at school with Tasmanian farmer's kids in th 1950's, and it is apparently still true - my wife's step-mother has a couple of kids in the business in Queensland, and when I was talking to her last month she confirmed that the same old scam is still being used.

"The Real Andy"

Maybe he will stalk the ones at the local Brisbane primary next.

Be more his intellectual level.

........ Phil

From

"Beef has been Australia's major goods export to the USA for the past three years, accounting for $1,357m (14%) of Australia's goods exports to that country in 2003. Since 1998, the volume of beef exports to USA has risen by 30%, while the value of beef exports has risen by 81%.

Australia's beef exports are subject to a quota of 378,214 tonnes annually which was negotiated to meet the USA's World Trade Organization (WTO) obligations. Exports below this are subject to a US4.4c per kilogram tariff, whereas exports above this figure attract a much higher tariff of 26.4%. For the last three years, Australia's beef exports to the USA have been at or near the quota. Under the proposed free trade agreement, the quota would be gradually lifted to 448,214 tonnes over an

But you're right about the non- tariff barriers. The RoHS directive (and several other directives) seem to be mainly cack-handed attempts at such a scam. They have ended up only by shafting the local industry, though.

Paul Burke

When I was involved with the development of a similar product, expressly intended for the British and U.K. markets, back in 1980, the Deutsche Bundespost was still using "safety standards" as a non-tariff barrier to trade. Since then, things have changed a bit

"Telephone services in Germany were formerly provided exclusively by the Deutsche Bundespost or, later, by Deutsche Telekom AG. In mid-1996, the Telecommunications Act entered into force. This act established the regulatory framework for a liberalization of the telecommunications market as of Jan. 1, 1998. Since then, telecommunications have been deregulated throughout Europe and sparked keen competition and lower telephone rates."

So what.

That would have to be a film and foil capacitor - metalised film capacitors fail open when exposed to internal corona. It would be a surprising choice - Farnell's list of class Y film capacitors seems to be pretty much entirely metallised film parts, which are smaller and cheaper than their film and foil counterparts.

It might conceivably do so, if your hypotheses about the existence of the capacitors and the nature of their construction were both correct.

Amusing to see Phil Allison constructing hypothetical dangers out of his under-equipped imagination.

True, but this is also true of ostensibly properly certified and certificated gear - certification officials aren't always incoruptible.

The only really safe advice to give would be to tell the OP to take the devices back to his boss, and insist that the company buy a system designed and certified for the German market, which a 110V powered device obviously isn't. Sadly, the OP doesn't want to do that.

"Fred Bloggs" = another AUTISTIC F****NG CUNT

Any USA or Canadian based **web site** can offer what ever lethal piles of ** S*IT ** they *f****ng like* to any person with a valid credit card.

It completely out-foxes all European or Australian laws.

Fred Bloggs ( ???) is a Criminal Cathead WHO wouldn't know if his STUPID FAT ASS were on fire.

......... Phil

Yeah American standard NEMA 5-15 and we have both CEE 7/4 and CEE

CE certification is there . If you need more standards the price goes up to $14.99 a piece.

If your management is really geared on using those units we provide certification also for RF equipment . Reverse engineering may be necessary!

I imagine you also have 3 phase power over there. You could take into consideration powering the whole outfit from a single 3P transformer. We provide those too ... but its not going to be cheap.

lemonjuice

Nothing to a psychotic, know nothing, public safety law breaking, reckless cunt called Bill Sloman.

Nothing to a psychotic, know nothing, public safety law breaking, reckless cunt called Bill Sloman.

Means nothing to a psychotic, know nothing, public safety law breaking, reckless cunt called Bill Sloman.

Bill Sloman is a f****ng Neo Nazi Cunt.

Bill Sloman is also a f****ng public menace.

Millions of moronic, autistic egomaniac Dutch Cunts are exactly the same.

Track the SOBs down to where they live.

Exterminate.

........ Phil

"Paul Burke"

........ Phil

I wouldn't say he was reckless...

"Paul Burridge" "Phil Allison"

So the others all apply in full !!!

.......... Phil

And there was I thinking that Phil thought himself infallible, and now he is producing a gratified reaction to partial agreement from Paul Burridge, the well-known super-guru ...

I guess Phil has to encourage any supporter he can get - beggars can't be choosers.

safety

Oh! That's terrible abuse! They do the same horrible thing to slaughterhouses in the US that don't pass every inspection.

On second thought, I think that they have read the sci.electronics newsgroups, and they think that you and Phil have mad cow disease, so they don't want to take any chances on importing infected beef.

That is total nonsense; there is no safety issue with these transformers. And there is no requirement for isolation. Feel free to cite the safety report on the Australian incident.

"Fred Bloggs" = a cunt

The * issue* relates to some of the electrical items that ordinary folk may own or acquire from the USA and connect that are unsafe when 240 volts worth of AC power gets involved.

Go read my other carefully worded posts on the matter and learn something - ASSHOLE !!

Figure out why such stepdowns are classed as " PROHIBITED ITEMS " under AS3000 - the legal enforced standard for all electrical installations in Australia.

Or else - go f****ng DROP DEAD.

.......... Phil

The common law of negligence establishes responsibility and not requirements. You are way too dim to understand the difference.

You may consider your posts to be carefully worded, but they are really very crude expressions of ambiguity, ignorance, and non-information.

There is no AS 3000, it is now AS/NZS 3000, and this standard governs the practice of permanent electrical installation in buildings. It does not have purview over end use equipment, these are governed by safety approval authority.