really nice little switcher

Sep 02, 2016 32 Replies

That statement is sort of ambiguous.

You have to rely

I'll certainly have to breadboard that. It would be nice if it inverts, and I didn't have to use another part. The soft start might help.

The data sheet does lack a lot of details. We'll have to learn on the bench, like the thermal tests.

Certain Parties want to add a winding to, say, the +5 switcher inductor, and rectify that to make -5. Gotta think about that one. I've done that before, but just to make a little bit of not-well-regulated negative.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

Pin 2, SW, looks hot in the IR image, but it has a long trace, which confuses things.

The eval board layout looks fine at 2 amps, which is probably all I need. It runs, pretty hot, at 3.5 amps out and thermal cycles at 4.

There are little cheap potted switching 78XX drop-in equivalents, and they invert, so I could use one of them.

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I'm trying to keep this box clean and simple, which is why this sort of thing is appealing, as compared to making a Cuk or something with a lot of parts.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

or this:

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I've done that too; the negative output is the p-p input voltage minus two diode drops minus other losses. That 5.6r resistor adds loss but most switchers need it to prevent current-spike shutdown.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

Uggggh! Throw up!

Use a coupled inductor. Provide a Schottky diode on the plus side to match one on the minus side. Symmetry is your friend. Get better than 1% matching.

Thanks, - Win

Yup. This.

Also works for non-synchronous converters, but you need a minimum load on the straight-through (buck) output.

Tim

Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Contract Design Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com

John, read my other comment and Tim's followup.

Thanks, - Win

I just tested a CUI potted-blob 7805 style switcher, as a +24 to -5 converter.

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This works great. It's hardly worth designing something when this is under $5.

Here's measurements if anyone is interested:

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This, plus the cute little TI synchronous switchers, pretty much solves my zillions-of-rails power supply problems.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Would be nice if someone took one apart and reverse engineered it.

Seems like a high price for a small switcher, maybe one should setup a company doing small switchers like that

Cheers

Klaus

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I sometimes use some of these:

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These are even cheaper:

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but they are only 23V input

-Lasse

I'd make more money selling hot dogs on the street. The distributor price must be something like $2.00.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

I wouldn't use Chinese ebay parts in a production instrument. The CUI stuff seems very good, reliable and conservatively rated.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

MPS has switchers that only need input and output caps, too. Interesting stuff, though I haven't actually used one in a design yet but might throw one as a Vcore supply for a DSP on a board I'm working on.

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