Re: nice polyfuse

Mar 21, 2024 Last reply: 2 years ago 3 Replies


I've been designing relay-matrix switch modules (how the mighty have


>fallen) and I don't want the customers igniting my PC boards or
>welding my relays by ignoring our 2 amp max current spec.
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>Polyfuses are usually terrible, but this Yageo part is pretty nice. >
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>It (slowly) trips at 2.5 amps in still air at room temp, 3.2 amps with
>some air flow. It survived 120 volts DC, which is all I had available
>on my bench, pulling about 25 mA.
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>The good part is that its cold resistance is only about 0.07 ohms. >
>The next question is, if I put it in series with a 1 ohm 5 watt WW
>shunt resistor, does the poly protect it from, say, a stiff 60 or so >volt source?
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>And does it absolutely protect an inner-layer 50 mil wide 2 oz PCB
>trace? I need to do a multilayer board that's 1 oz on the outsides,
>for BGAs and stuff, but the board houses don't mind making all the
>inner layers 2 oz copper.
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The series power resistor idea is interesting. Are you wanting to put the PTC in a circuit with voltage above its rating ?


If 1 Ohm 5 watts limits the voltage across the PTC then it's probably good.


0.07 Ohms, cold, is good.

We use a 250V 1/2 amp PTC as well as the 1206 size ones.



One problem we had with a 1206 15V PTC was that sometimes (rarely) it would burn through and short to the next layer down which was 5V. A thicker PCB should fix that as well as getting rid of copper just below the PTC on the next layer down.



boB


One approach is to increase the thermal coupling between the resistor and the polyswitch.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

SW protection is nice, but what happens during power up or when the customer only applies power to the relay section, not the unit power. Then there's no protection.

What do you need the series resistor for, maybe I missed the point?

Looks nice. Now I have to buy one, hoarding instruments you know.

I have a lot of Siglent stuff.

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Good instruments, but horrible PC software.

I was thinking, that you could do a solid state switch with current sensing for each wire, but that would probably be a nightmare in time and parts.

A PTC should work, if you have a trace which is a couple of mm wide, it can handle more than 10A at 60degrees delta. So you should be able to find a PTC that will protect the trace (I am guessing this is low voltage DC)

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