Re: I want to start a new political Party

We need to import most of our oil until they run out... THEN we can start using our oil. Use theirs up first.

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Tough. You ran out of money long before they ran out of oil.

You missed this...

"Starting with the month you reach full retirement age, you can get your benefits with no limit on your earnings."

What does happen though is an IRS mechanism that taxes some of my "benefits" when my (net taxable) income goes above some magical number.

I didn't have to go in, but my wife did. When I took her there I saw no guards... it was just a bunch of cubicles. But this is Phoenix, we don't act like NY or Californica ;-) ...Jim Thompson

You have it bass-ackwards. You youngsters have to cough it up to pay for my wine habit >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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The rich are smart enough to have assets that track, or even appreciate, with inflation. And smart enough to buy those assets with loans that are in fixed dollars, loans that diminish in value with inflation. Companies raise their prices to track inflation, often getting ahead of their cost curve.

Little people with some savings, pensions, IRAs, and bills to pay, food to buy, gas and electricity and tuition to pay for, will be hurt by government printing money.

Thanks. I can see I'll need to do some more reading if I'm going to "work the system".

The Social Security Administration believes in preparation: That's about 600 rounds per SSA agent which is about right for two years of training and qualification. I'm having difficulties visualizing a mob of retirees assaulting the SSA offices, but it's possible. Still, it makes a good conspiracy theory.

Then there's North Carolina: "North Carolina Man Sentenced to 10 years in Prison for Assaulting SSA Security Guard" Note that the "Management Issue" for the assault is to "Improve Customer Service" which methinks is somewhat of an understatement. Also note the choice of fonts, kerning, and colors on the SSA OIG web pile, which seem to be designed to produce difficult reading for anyone with impaired eyesight.

I dunno about Arizona being all that docile: Baja Arizona? Maybe we just give Arizona back to Mexico?

Lot of leftist nutcases down that way... clustered around UofA. But Paul Babeu, was re-elected Sheriff of Pinal County, so I think it's only "noise". ...Jim Thompson

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And government looks out for itself.

Yep. There's another problem. Inflation and printing money (same thing) tend to elevate the incomes of the working classes. This brings them into target range for measures that were originally intended to "tax the rich". AMT (alternative minimum tax) is an example. It was originally designed to screw a handfull of wealthy tax avoiders. Thanks to inflation, it now affects many "little people" that sell their homes and businesses without the benefits of a balancing portfolio of tax losers. It happened to me when I sold a rental house. AMT is also effectively permanent, as it now generates considerable tax revenue for the government:

I don't think that the USA has ever had a billionaire President, or member of Congress, or a billionaire governor (Arnold S might be close.) Putin is a billionaire, as are most of the upper level of the Chinese government, as was that guy in Italy.

Bloomberg is "just" a mayor but he's up there. John Corizine is up there, too, particularly if you include the money he stole from his clients.

Like FDR, don't count him out in 2016, either. In fact, also like FDR, don't count him out until he's dead.

He's just an Oreo.

Certainly! Allowing you to keep your money is an expense to the government.

They wiped out the Ocala office with a flood. No 'fire' needed...

He's work 230 Million. If hadn't sold Bain, he would be worth over 2 Billion. Isn't that enough for you?

Have you ever passed up 1.75 Billion in income, to work for free?

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Americans seem to get really rich, then run for political office. Most other countries reverse the order.

There are other differences. Americans and most Europeans believe that bribes are immoral, while commissions are perfectly acceptable. Never mind that the only difference between a bribe and a commission is when it's paid. In the middle east, where bribes are the norm, one is considered a fool for risking one's profit by accepting a post-paid commission.

That also extends to political office holders. In the US, the office holder does not accept gratuities while in office. Instead, he enriches his friends and supporters. Once out of office, they are expected to make his life easy with expensive presents, well paying jobs, cheap stock, and zero payment loans. On other countries, the office holders steal everything that isn't tied down, and run for their lives once out of office as their former friends and supporters charge them with various immoral and illegal acts.

I'll review my notes and get back to you on that. Mikek

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Clinton and Obama weren't rich before they ran for politics. Neither is wanting for their next arugula sandwich. You can aspire to sex, money, or power. If you achieve #3, the other two are automatic.