Re: Hierarchical PDF-printing with Mentor "IC Station Schematics"?

Yup! A quick look shows a simple macro within UltraEdit deleting all lines except those containing \projects\, then append a print header, and bingo! A batch file for hierarchical printing ;-) ...Jim Thompson

When I designed large chunks for ultrasound machine (in the days before DSPs took over much of that) I had to print out complete stacks a lot and can't remember that it ever was a problem with Orcad SDT. So they broke that as well? Oh man ...

Actually, that's the beauty of Eagle. You can write yourself a user language program that does just about anything. If PSpice has similar scripting capabilities it should be possible.

Now making labels, designators and attributes searchable, that's another matter. That would need a time machine that takes us back to the good old days ;-)

Then why does the crash notice say PSpice on it, and not Capture?

I haven't figured out how to do it in 16.3 either. It's not that big of a deal, though. I make all the refids the same except for the first digit, then include a translation table for those who can't add 100. ;-)

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Ok, you've been dreaming about hierarchy for many iterations of 'S'. ;-)

I'm forced to set my sights lower. Crapture is at least usable now. ;-)

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Well, look at what they started with.

My PSpice stuff IS searchable, so no problem here, though I have little need for searching for a REFDES... my layout guy works from the schematics then checks his layout netlist against my schematic netlist (LVS)... hard to make an error when the _checks_ don't include the human inclination to make mistakes.

For reviews I tend toward navigable (and searchable) PDF's...

I tried PowerPoint, but found it too much effort, Adobe Acrobat is so much easier. ...Jim Thompson

The PSpice COM wrapper is what Crapture use to "talk" to PSpice. The Crapture "developers" did not have the brains to modify what existed with PSpice Schematics. In general I'd say that the Crapture "developers" just threw it together... low $$$ expended, then sent it all to India for "support" ;-) ...Jim Thompson

Larkin probably wrote it so blame is passed away from the true culprit ;-) ...Jim Thompson

Different in my case. We have most of the chip designed by a design house, I did the architecture and together with my client's engineer we watch that it's all done per our spec. For example, it is really important to be able to search and verify that some control signal goes to all the places we want it to go.

Nice, even finds the vertical stuff such as POLY0. That just plain does not work with Mentor IC Station. What kind of font did you set in PSpice Schematics?

Acrobat 9 (paid edition) failed quite miserably on a schematic with vector font. It only OCR'ed about half of the stuff correctly and also missed the vertical text :-(

That's NOT my style... checking work hired-out by looking over a schematic is dangerous. Can't you run the their schematics in a simulator to check them?

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...Jim Thompson

Yes, we can. But I want to do both. This stuff is rather difficult to simulate, it's highly mixed signal. Can take forever unless you go behavioral with some modeling and we both know that that can get you onto thin ice.

We have caught a few things via schematic review already and that's quite normal with projects like this. It just takes too friggin' long without a searchable hierarchy.

Ok, will check whether IC Station can do that. But we'll likely still need somthing better than Acrobat because what comes out of this Mentor CAD is supposedly non-searchable.

Usually that has to do with setting up servers for floating licenses and that sort of thing. Not a problem for those who are not doing anything that requires high-end software.

They usually have very good instructions and/or help. They don't want to p*ss off the network admins or make them look bad. They also keep those instructions away from the end users.

Try installing an IP phone network in a non-stand-alone mode, for example.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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