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> > > > > > > > >Anyone care to calculate the increase in how much social security is=
taken
> > >from
> > > >your check from since its beginning?
> > > > =A0It start at 1% of your first $3000
> > > >Now it's 15.3% of your first $106,400
>
> > > >Actual Rate
> > > >formatting link
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> > > >Maximum Taxable Earnings
> > > >formatting link
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> > > >Inflation Calculator
> > > >formatting link
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> > > >Between 1937 and 2009, I calculate it as 36** times increase in the =
amount
> > >government takes from you to pay for social security.
>
> > > >Oh and SS is going broke, But it can be fixed just take more money f=
rom us.
> > > >Please do the math and correct me.
> > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mike
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> > > >** this includes Medicare which I'll argue is part of social securit=
y.
> > > I have mixed feelings about Medicare...
>
> > > It's a Ponzi scheme. =A0It pays highly discounted fees to doctors, et=
c.
> > But it, in "free" form, covers only basic medical care and requiresf
> > > substantial "co-pays". =A0Thus I have to pay premiums for Part-B and
> > > Part-D, plus a premium to a "supplemental" (private) insurer... out o=
> > pocket ~$500/month.
>
> > > That combination is _wonderful_. =A0I receive excellent and speedy
> > > treatment.
>
> > > Wait until you're pushing 70 and let me know what you think then (if
> > > Obama hasn't already declared you "surplus ;-)
>
> > What Jim hasn't noticed that he could get the same level of care in
> > France or Germany for about half the price. He'd also be paying for
> > the system to provide much the same level of care for his indigent
> > neighbours, but he'd still only be paying half what it costs him in
> > the US.
>
> > The US system can provide good health care for the well-off, but it is
> > ridiculously expensive. Some of the extra money being wasted on over-
> > treatment to minimise the doctor's risk of being suded for
> > malpractice, and quite a lot more on malpractice insurance, but a
> > large chunnk of the xtra money is pure profit for the medical
> > insurance business, which is why they are now funding the sort of
> > idiotic propaganda that Jim (amongst other) has been peddling here
> > recently.
>
> > --
> >Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
>
> Yeah I know. Europe is the big savior of the world =A0- until they need
> saving. Bah humbug.
But what has the US done for Europe recently?
And what has the got to do with the US learning how to do medical care right? As opposed to far-right.
-- Bil Sloman, Nijmegen