Re: Computer mouse switch debouncing

Piglet wrote in news:qb60ii$7bn$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Rub-a-dub-dub. Definitely the switch.

Keeping old mice around, especially if you are brand loyal or model loyal even (I always buy a ball mouse) can help as you can use virtually unused "right mouse button" switches (or center)to replace old, worn left mouse buttons.

Sure they debounce in software. The battery/click thing probably forces a uP reset which may help semehow.

Probably the mouse switch. They wear out fairly easily. I see the problem often and simply replace the switch. They can be found in the usual places for about 10 pcs for $5 or 100 pcs for $15. Too bad nobody uses a hall effect, optical, or other no-metal-contact type push button switch that doesn't wear out.

Sometimes, I see Windoze machines where someone has played with the mouse settings in the control panel. If temporarily replacing the bouncing mouse with a known good mouse does the same thing, then checking the settings might be a good idea. I've also seen problems with loose and intermittent USB connectors which tend to make the mouse move to parts unknown, usually to the opposite side of the screen. Wiggle the connector to see if that's a problem. There are also expensive mice designed for gamers with built in repeat circuitry. This feature is handy to keep from wearing out the mouse button switches, but tends to be glitchy if set too fast and the computah becomes busy running the game.

Debounce does not require latency.

Cleaning the contacts in the switches. the cause is going to be dirt in the switch or bad solder on the pcb

no

absolutely

On Sat, 11 May 2019 08:19:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: (...)

Here's a potential band-aid.

Buggy-Mouse.ahk - Fix a buggy mouse. Stop it from double-clicking when you try to single-click.

I ran the .exe version on my Windoze XP machine. I planted an icon in the system tray. However, I couldn't figure out a way to test it or to understand the debug output, so I don't know if it really works.

Ah, got it. - Right click on the "H" icon in the system tray. - Check "Debug" - Uncheck "Debug (only blocked) Click any mouse button. A box full of debug gobblygook will appear. If you click any mouse button normally, it will just show which button was clicked. However, if you rapidly tap any button, it will show a button blocked message in the box. Right clicking on the "H" icon in the system tray will show a counter after the "Clicks Blocked" showing how many clicks were eaten by the program.

Kinda looks like this program might be sufficient to save you the $0.15 for a replacement mouse switch.

Rick C wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Dip ass. Debouncing introduces it. Sheesh, WTFU.

Sorry, it doesn't. If you would like to learn, apologize for calling me a name. Then I'll be happy to explain to you how to debounce without latency.

Or remain ignorant.

Rick C wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

I was counting switch events before you even knew what they were.

Not interested in your 'explanations'.

John Doe wrote in news:qb8dj1$2jo$2@dont- email.me:

The fact that the driver has to process it and determine if additional noise is additional button presses or just noise and then pass the decision on.

How can you say that does not take time?

dence.org:

instant reaction and a blanking period

Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote in news:278151af- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Oh I am sure that will make the gamers happy. How many missed presses per hundred... hint: one is too many.

On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 11:18:13 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wr ote:

cadence.org:

I like the fact that you have explained to him how debounce could work with out any perceptible latency and he is backpedaling saying debouncing at all would lose button presses. That's why I wouldn't explain it to him until he apologized. I knew he wouldn't apologize and even if I did tell him he wouldn't understand/believe even such a simple concept. The guy is really amazing.

Rick C wrote in news:b0ca0815-9941- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

You are truly f***ed in the head.

Backpedal that you retarded f*ck.

You have your mouse settings in the Windoze Control Panel set to "left handed" mouse. There may also be a similar setting under "Accessibility" features.

Or, you could learn to use a mouse with your left hand, which might be useful in the future.