Re: Black holes do reduce light in LEDs?

Dec 15, 2007 34 Replies

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:58:55 -0500) it happened "Greg Neill" wrote in :

Yes, among other things :-)

Correct.

If you removed a stone from that water, then the water would fill up the empty space, and would move towards were the stone was, at some speed.

The analogy is just that, an analogy, it does not hold. Keep to the facts.

Sam mentioned waves, I merely mentioned gravity speed. The example of removing the sun is clear enough I think. So how long will it take before we notice on earth if the sun was removed? So what IS the speed of gravity?

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:34:36 +0100) it happened "TheM" wrote in :

Yes I did read that article. It is always a bit tricky, because it used general relativity to prove that, and that theory has c as max speed in all its assumptions.

Yep. For the moment :-)

Removing a stone from a pond creates a void that is filled by water rushing in (local field collapse). Assuming that the pond is large (water volume and surface area is large compared to the stone) the resulting disturbance propagates outwards as waves.

The field surrounding a static mass is static; It's already everywhere. Remove a source by disappearing a mass (thought experiment only!) and the field collapses from that source location outwards at the wave propagation speed. Think of it as the response of the sum total of the fields of all sources (the "background") adjusting itself to a local stimulus -- just like the pebble in the pond analogy.

Remove the Sun (and its gravity) and you'll create a gravitational WAVE... anr=d if GTR is correct, that gravitational wave will propagate at c.

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:56:01 GMT) it happened Sam Wormley wrote in :

Exactly. But there is at least ONE problem with GTR

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Full circle.

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:25:17 -0500) it happened "Greg Neill" wrote in :

Agreed

Also agreed.

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Interesting. Can you think of a way to prove that theory is "better" then the current theory based on general relativity?

About 8.3 minutes. I htthk we would be more concerned with the sudden darkness and coldness.

How do you propose to remove the sun?

probably not. But there *is* a way the matter can influence itself- and that is if size is relative and open-ended and you can show a repeating pattern of structure.

Take my atoms are galaxies concept, extend it indefinitely up and down, and why not, there can be no smallest or largest structure in an infinite universe- and you have repeating layers of energy emanations making up the structure itself. Then build in some kind of *energy drafting*, standing wave, soldiers walking across the bridge thing, and as long as complexity is held to be infinite, you can have one level feed on the next and the next on the next ................ad infinitum.

John Galaxy Model for the Atom

So all you have is brain drool.

No, let's compare my offerings to yours- read what I say, then read what you say.

All *you* have offered is brain drool. I've offered real ideas.

By the way, the above line of thinking leads to the conclusion that every point in space contains infinite energy. I heard that somewhere else- where was it?

John

So, if superconductivity happens, Cooper pairs form, and if the electron is a black hole, then black hole pairs form, and the motion of those black holes towards each other creates gravity waves, waves that are observed exactly when that experiment goes super conductive? Please reply fast, Yours Truly Anakin Skywater

On a sunny day (Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:09:23 GMT) it happened Anakin Skywater wrote in :

I dunno, I have always wondered what our little friends the electrons are made up of, and how they know where to move in those cicuits ;-)

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