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...Jim Thompson
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You are obsessed with San Francisco. One wonders why.
All I care about Phoenix is that I want to avoid it.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation
Not fair, that was a clear day!
I don't trust air I can't see.
The police state is everywhere, not just San Francisco. There are forums dedicated to police abuse.
Taser Taser Taser!
Then there was the UC Davis pepper spraying asshole cop:
This is all post 9/11. The police have been militarized thanks to "fusion centers". They just don't think like cops used to think. Now the mindset is the public is the enemy.
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Yes. I have trained as an EMT, and I have been meaning to get some military
-style clothing in case there is a general lock-down as in Boston. Haven't gotten around to it. There was a maverick writer, Jerzy Kozinski, who wrote "The Painted Bird." Anyhow, he had a tailor who catered to dictators (this was in europe) make him a General's uniform. The hat had crossed rockets as an emblem, the work s. So he went around europe ordering police to park his car and getting var ious priveleges of rank. There was a sociologist type, can't remember his name though I heard him ta lk, who dressed his subjects up in uniforms and ordered them to do horrible things to people, which they did. All I can remember is Adorno, who wrote "The Authoritrian Personality," but it wasn't him. For the EE-types in this forum, I recommend a visored hat with lightning st rikes and orbiting electrons. Tell anyone who asks you are around to guard against magneto-electric pulses. jb
I wonder what is the ratio between cops shot and killed, to innocent civilians shot and killed by cops. 50:1 civilian/cop deaths?
When a cop is killed, a thousand other cops show up, on paid time, for a memorial ceremony. When an innocent person is shot by a cop, they lie and stonewall.
"He was reaching for his waistband."
"The officer felt threatened."
"She was waving a potato peeler in her kitchen."
"The kid had a toy gun."
"Wrong address."
All real.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
We're seeing more and more of this in the UK too, nowadays. The relationship between the public and the police began to change in the very early 1980s. Today, more than 30 years later, the cops think and act like they're paramilitaries and are suspicious and contemptuous of the public. We are seeing more and more of these 'mistaken' shooting incidents, too. There has NEVER been a weapon (lethal or non-lethal - and they've been given a fair few over the years, believe me) given to the police that they haven't abused and misused - even on innocent and helpless old people and young children. Is it a co-incidence this is happening in the US and the UK at the same time? If not, it does make me wonder what exactly is coming around the corner....
The ratio of the number of innocents killed by cops to innocents being killed by citizens is 6:1, even after accounting for the number of gun uses (higher for civilians).
"Oops."
The militarization of the police forces is NOT a good thing.
But your cops don't even have the excuse that the "perp" had a gun. Right?
Shootings by cops are completely different from shootings by civilians. It's just target practice for law enforcement.
Not the point. Cops are trained in weapons use and have voluntarily entered a profession where they go in harm's way. Their mission is to protect the public, not kill them.
The training is clearly wrong, and the cops sound cowardly to me. They should only fire when they are absolutely, undoubtedly in mortal danger.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation
That's exactly the point. Despite being "trained", they kill more innocents than do armed citizens, without such training.
Or when someone else is.
Back in the early 70's during Chief McNamara's reign, a man armed with a pistol and a young upstanding officer were killed in an incident that occurred at night in the streets of downtown San Jose outside a doughnut shop. The incident was described in first reporting as a 'shootout' between an armed man and the SJ police force. The young officer left a wife and children. Of course, following the incident the usual discussion of the importance of 'gun control' followed, until...
Finally brought to light, was that the "man with the pistol" was a mentally unstable homeless man who, after being hassled by the officers went berserk in anger, grabbed the offending officer's weapon and started brandishing it about. The confrontation led out into the streets where the police totally surrounded him until the situation escalated with the man firing wildly hitting no one and the police firing back killing him with multiple gunshot wounds. Sadly, the officer's shot one of their own with a shotgun wound to the belly in the resulting crossfire. After the true facts were brought to light the story was instantly dropped from news coverage.
So much for 'gun control' and so much for training. and so much for the concept of 'police and community service'. Bullying is not just in our school system.
Situations like this happen all over the U.S. Blame politicians for closing all the mental institutions, blame the gun culture in the U.S. It all plays a part.
Not so many years ago a police detective in Providence, RI brought in a suspect for questioning. Went into the interview room and the suspect went berserk, grabbed the detectives gun and killed the detective with the detectives own gun.
The suspect then smashed a windows, jumped from a third story window and was pursued by the rest of the department. Mental illness strikes again.
Um, no blame for the cops who were harassing the man? They should be charged with any crime he may have committed.
You'd think so, but the answer is no. Since the handgun ban came in in
1996 only legitimate sporting users have been penalized (as is so often the case). The availability of guns among criminals has exploded since 1996 so the police are understandably very anxious when attempting a raid on any premises where the suspect may be armed. So although we're a disarmed population (criminals aside) no one is feeling any safer as a result! You'd be in an even worse situation in America - far, far worse in fact - if your law-makers were foolish enough to ban guns there given the vast numbers of firearms there are in circulation. I'd suggest you learn from our mistake.
That entity should review its policy regarding allowing guns in the interrogation rooms?!
That was my point. The *only* thing banning guns does is disarm the victims. Almost all of the mass shootings here (I can think of only one counterexample) here are done in "gun free victim zones". Your whole country is such a zone.
Lefties will never learn. "I'll be different this time." "No one has done it properly, in the past."
Following your lead, the next thing after banning guns, would be to start prosecuting people for defending themselves.
Gotta give the perps a fighting chance!
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