Them's fightin' words, Phil! I could argue the exact opposite, having spent many years in the service side of the industry. You try teaching people how to troubleshoot circuits some time, & you'll soon see how much art is is required to do it well. ;^)
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Bob Larter
Indeed. Now that I'm a dad, I'm a very different person to the one I was before I became a father. And I expect that many other life experiences can change a person just as much.
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James Arthur
No one was arrested except the two teens. AFAIK, they never did that again, and suffered no permanent harm. Instead they got a valuable, clear lesson in civics and pride, as did any other would-be taggers.
In an earlier time in America, people and communities just solved their own problems. If their Chicken McNuggets were too spicy or their neighbor was too loud, they'd simply talk it over and fix things.
I lived in a tiny house in a poor neighborhood as a kid, but everyone kept it clean. I remember being scolded by a neighbor "You pick that up!" when my 5-year-old self accidentally dropped a piece of paper on the street.
Now that govm't provides those services, people just call '911'.
Cheers, James Arthur
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Michael A. Terrell
Its not easy to take away their shotguns, and teach logical troubleshooting. BTDT, caught hell for it.
You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
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Joel Koltner
No goood deed goes unpunished?
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Phil Hobbs
I don't mean that you don't have to be smart to be a good troubleshooter, just that everyone can agree when it's found and fixed. That's characteristic of a science rather than an art.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs (who has held a lot of people's hands helping them troubleshoot mixed-technology systems)
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Michael A. Terrell
I was told that I was arrogant & opinionated, because they eventually found the problem if they changed enough parts. What a bunch of maroons. That was the same place where a 'committee' showed up my forth day on the job and told be that I better slow down, because I was making everyone look bad.
You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
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Michael A. Terrell
Will it be science when someone finds and fixes dimbulb? :)
You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
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Jim Thompson
That happened to me at Sperry/Honeywell Satellite Systems. I received a "visitation" from some union thugs. Needless to say, I told them to "Go piss up a rope" ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Joel Koltner
"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...
Haha... nice.
I think it's unfortunately not all that uncommon to find places similar to where Michael worked. At some point if someone said I was "too productive," I'd just cut back and spend the spare time trying to improve my own skills or working on my resume to try to find someplace better! ;-)
Given your skills and personality, I doubt many people would contest that your becoming a consultant wasn't the optimal scenario both for yourself as well as as the clients you've worked for.
Hmm... were your kids in scouting growing up? (I know your wife does the girl scout thing now.) It's interesting to picture you as a scoutmaster... I have an uncle-in-law that was a scoutmaster back in the '70s, and in summer he'd take his troop out to eastern Oregon, start hiking over some mountain pass on, e.g., a Sunday with the arrangement that someone would come to pick them up at a point, say, 30 miles away the following Saturday. One guy with a half-dozen scouts, no cell phones or GPS, out in the woods for a week... hard to imagine these days!
---Joel
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Joerg
A friend who is scoutmaster still does that with his team. They used to spend Newyears up at Glacier Point in Yosemite National Park, a place where nobody is allowed at that time other than rangers (road is closed). He said that you have to say good-bye to pretty much anything from civilization during those days.
Regards, Joerg
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Jim Thompson
I think all my clients are happy, though they _still_ regularly protest when I toss a design-in-progress and start over... my perfectionist personality is my own worst enemy :-(
Personal finance wise I should have gone into manufacturing... that's where the profit is.
I may design and build a product yet before I exit ;-)
My two girls were in Girl Scouts. Then all _five_ granddaughters.
I, personally, made it up to Life Scout rank in the Explorers; and served as a Den Chief for several Cub Troops. Right now I'm an adult member of the Girl Scouts, doing financial things like orchestrating cookie sales.
My two sons and I were in Indian Guides, one-on-one father-son kind of camping and projects.
I can remember hiking training with compass and glow-in-the-dark star charts ;-)
I also had police crowd control training... my Explorer troop was police-department-sponsored. That ought to rile up the leftists amongst us ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson
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...Jim Thompson
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Joel Koltner
"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...
Gotcha. :-)
There are clearly many designs on the market that *should* be been tossed and started over midway-through!
It's easier today than ever before, I think. (At least from the technological side of things... moreso than ever those leftist weenies are going to make it difficult to actually be profitable to you personally, of course!)
I hadn't heard of (the YMCA's, it appears) Indian Guides before... interesting program. I did spend many happy summers in YMCA summer camps, though.
The boy scout troop I was in was sponsored, early-on, by the local police department too, but there wasn't any crowd control training that I received (maybe before I joined?). I did spend a couple of days at the local "end of summer" festival paired up with a cop trying to get people to listen to a speech I'd made up on bicycle safety... throughout the two days, I think I only got to give a formal presentation twice: It was initially something like half-an-hour long, which as a kid I didn't realize was far too much of a commitment to kids and parents who primarily had pronto pups, ferris wheels, and skill games on their mine. After the first run-through the cop went through my notes and axed out about 60% of it to cut it down to a more reasonable ~10 minutes!
---Joel
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Jim Thompson
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Can't remember now for sure what it was called by the police, be we of Scot ancestry would call it a cudgel... amazing how many people you can drive back. I'll have to hone my training in case it's needed for the coming war against the leftist weenies ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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JosephKK
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I could get into that if i could drag a nice mixed brace of liberals and neoconservitives at the same time. It would be all the more fun with them blaming each other instead of themselves for their current situation.
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Jim Thompson
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...Jim Thompson
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JosephKK
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Insisting on being painted with your own broad brush much?
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Never heard of an honest neocon either. Say Enron.
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