OT: Yet more taxes...

From an investment newsletter:

Congressional Democrats proposed new health care legislation yesterday that would penalize all but the smallest businesses up to 8% of payroll if they failed to provide "health insurance" for every employee. (I've put "health insurance" in quotes because this program has nothing to do with actuarial risks or long-term investing. "Health insurance" as it works today is nothing more than a payment plan for health care.)

The fees on businesses would be used to pay for health care for the poor. Additionally, the Dems proposed a 5.4% "surtax" on individuals with incomes of more than $1 million. This legislation is dangerous. It directly links a crucial benefit (health care) for millions of people to the wallets of business owners and wealthy people. This legislation is simply legalized plunder. It's using the power of government to steal from Peter to pay Paul.

While that's not new in America, the idea of doing so directly and for health care is particularly dangerous. There's no economic limit to how much health care can be consumed, because there's no real price system or a free market in health care. So as long as someone else is forced to pay for it, demand for health care will soar.

Finally, adding yet another tax to the top wage earners in America raises the question of how long the rich will go along. With the top federal rate at 39% and state income taxes averaging around 5%, this surtax would put wealthy taxpayers at the 50% mark. How hard would you work, and for how long, if half your wages were going to pay for a bankrupt government's entitlement programs? And what will happen when the rich try to stop paying or try to leave? What will happen when thousands of businesses simply shut down or fire most of their workers to avoid these taxes? Get your gold out now is my advice.

Reply to
Robert Baer
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You've got a "free market" in health care in the US at the moment, and it delivers a poorer product at twice the price that is being paid for a better service in France and Germany.

The advanced industrial countries of western Europe have worked out how to provide universal health care without running into this paradox. Perhaps you might like to think about the way they manage this.

Move it to France or Germany, where slightly higher taxes and better social services produce rather more prosperous and stable economies. Germany has a positive balance of trade - unlike the US - and while France is running a deficit at the moment, its peanuts compared with the US deficit, and no-where near as long-standing.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Bill Sloman
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Here in the US we pay enough per person that we could have the canadian system plus the one in england and still have money left over but if the government ran a system it would cost even more. Most americans believe "government can't do anything right". (Many of them do not include the military in this, go figure) When you hire someone for a job who believes that it can't be done, the results are usually bad. It isn't that americans are stupid although you will find some who sure are. It is that what they believe controls the outcome.

Most americans also believe that anything called a tax will instantly destroy the economy. They don't see money being wasted on private jets for the folks who run the health insurance companies etc as having the same effect. If you told them "We have a new system. You pay a tax equal to half your current health care cost and our magic health ray will keep from ever getting sick", the stock market would tank.

Reply to
MooseFET

If you could actually back that up in 3% of cases the big pharma would certainly tank.

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JosephKK

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