OT: "We're not treating this as a terrorist attack"

You seem to approve of Fox News, despite their habit of peddling nonsense that they known to be untrue because it boosts their audience numbers.

The "terrorist mass murders" you seem to be getting excited about were committed by two psychologically disturbed individuals who seems to have acted in complete isolation. Who is then doing the "cramming in"?

You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't bother.

Sure thing. Been waiting on you all to "go Galt" like you've been waiting on San Fran to be flooded by global warming, looking at my calendar like "any day now."

Speaking of which I figure you live in SF vs. Tulsa for a reason.

PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and migrant labor don't vote.

My kitchen floor is 365 feet above sea level. The ocean here is rising maybe 2 mm/year. We'll be wet in about 50,000 years, ignoring the next ice age.

I grew up in New Orleans and one day decided to reboot my life. I studied the USA for six months, traveled and explored and researched pollen distributions and ski areas. I decided to move to Portland or SF and an incident tipped the scales.

Can't complain. SF has good food, beautiful terrain, gay guys and great women who like engineers.

But I've never been to Tulsa. How's that? Have you been to Tulsa, or is it just a target for sneers?

Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to heat your house?

Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.

Now I recall that I have been to Tulsa. I designed a pipeline control system and visited a pumping station in nearby Bartlesville.

The guys there were nice but they mostly talked about basketball, which doesn't interest me.

Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in the service industry sector, and the trades?

I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?

I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves, tech support, sales, senior care-giving..

Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I _am_ the working class!

"Migrant labor" certainly had the chance as there was nothing to stop them or anyone else, especially in places like California where - AIUI - it's illegal to ask for voter ID. So come one, come all: legals, illegals, those who want to vote more than once and even dead people! No one turned away. You can't get any more inclusive than that. :-)

But are you a hoi polloi ?

Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50 years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today. "Yeah, you're right?"

Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so it's not really a class-thing.

No Leftists are among the 'hoi polloi' - they're a class apart: better than everyone else and therefore entitled to rule the world. Apparently.

President Musk has promised his significantly less well off supporters austerity, and they're very likely to receive it.

So long as someone else suffers more they seem content with that arrangement /shrug

President Musk has promised his significantly less well off supporters austerity, and they're very likely to receive it.

So long as it's promised someone else will suffer more they seem content with that arrangement /shrug

Trump, Vance and Fox New don't keep anybody alive. The Covid-19 epidemic killed more Americans per million than any other advanced industrial country lost, and Donald Trump's ignorance and excessive self-confidence were definitely part of the problem.

Covid-19 immunisation levels in the USA never got above 81% and only 70% of the population got fully immunised. Australia got to 95% which is what you need to get to herd immunity, if the vaccine is 100% effective (and the Covid-19 vaccines aren't that good).

He should be kept away from more demanding tasks.

Linear extrapolation again?

There's a about six metres of sea level rise locked up in the Greenland ice sheet and maybe another four in the West Antarctic Ice sheet. All they have to do is slide off into the ocean, and they can do that quite rapidly - is the end of the last ice age is anything to go by.

It won't flood your kitchen but it may well flood the road to your to the nearest shops.

Somebody wrote a song about it.

Cursitor Doom tries to pretend that he is an English gentleman, quite a few of whom do think that they are entitled to rule the world.

He clearly doesn't hang around with real leftists who are enthusiastic about educating their colleagues and co-workers.

It was a leftist who said "If took the most ardent revolutionary and vested him with absolute power within a year he will be worse than the Tsar himself".

You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.