OT: now-dominant strain of coronavirus more contagious than original

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The medieval mythical miasma concept turns out to be real, no longer obsolete:

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People living in air pollution are at a disadvantage to begin with:

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"Subscribe to continue reading."

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Bob Engelhardt

Use reader mode.

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Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

Do you mean Reader Mode?

That's a nice idea. What are the downsides? How well does it bypass paywalls?

CH

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Clifford Heath

I don't use Chrome because I don't trust Google. Firefox reader mode doesn't get around paywalls, but it does often get rid of nag overlays like that.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 
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Phil Hobbs

How the devil have I missed reader mode until now?!

AdBlock is wonderful too; given google is an advert machine, will ever be a Chrome equivalent?

NoScript is useful as well, /provided/ you are prepared to to some easy tweaking to get some sites working. If nothing else it demonstrates how many sites sell you to many different tracking outfits.

Both speed up page rendering times noticeably, particularly pages where your eyeballs are auctioned off in real time.

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Tom Gardner

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adblockplus works just fine on Chrome

Reply to
Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Evolutionarily(sp) speaking this is expected. It's our first interaction with the virus and it should evolve to be less deadly and more contagious... That's how it gets more of its 'offspring' into the next generation.

George H.

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George Herold

The YesScript2 add-on is great. If allows partial or full script blocking.

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jlarkin

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 6:08:00 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen w rote:

virus-has-

paywalls?

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Until they detect your use of the adblock and block you from the web site. I get that on a regular basis. Then I switch to another browser if I real ly want to see it.

The Washington Post detection of adblock is easy to get around. Go to read er view which they seem to also know and cut the text short... until you re load and get the full article.

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Ricky C

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Only the aspects that result in better propagation. In the present situati on I don't think lethality limits the propagation as it might with many oth er diseases. If it results in a less severe infection so people are more w illing to suffer it and not be isolated and/or treated, that will be a sele ction criteria. The disease is not transmitted very well in the hospital. So in our present system it is not requiring care that gets more propagati on, not so much whether you ultimately survive or not.

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Ricky C

That is only true if the virus is so lethal that it tends to kill almost everyone it infects before they have a chance to pass it on.

This one already produces 80% asymptomatic carriers and only kills about

3% of mostly the elderly and infirm. It is already close to optimal. It could just as easily evolve to kill 10% or more so long as it has an even higher R0 - and we are inadvertently selecting for maximum R0.

We have added the constraint of lockdown which is causing the original wild form to die out and be replaced by the mutant strain with the highest possible infectivity. This should not be a surprise.

Only true if it is killing a high proportion of those it infects and too quickly for them to pass it on before they expire.

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Martin Brown

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It makes perhaps 30% of the people it infects only slightly sick - not enou gh to notice. Of the remaining 70% - who are symptomatic to some extent - p erhaps one in five gets sick enough to need to go into hospital. Of that 14 %, some die.

More if they are elderly or have pre-existing problems. But younger people do die too.

The people who don't get sick enough to notice don't spread all that many v irus particles.

People who get sick enough to cough and sneeze a lot are better at spreadin g virus particles, but if they get tested early and promptly isolated the d on't spread them for long.

It probably hasn't got the highest possible infectivity - which would imply just getting to the coughing and sneezing phase and not staying there long enough to get noticed and isolated.

It's more complicated than that. Once the infection has got obvious, the in fected people are getting isolated and have a much poorer change of infecti ng new victims. If the infection is dramatic enough to eventually kill you, it's probably too dramatic for optimum infectivity.

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Bill Sloman

OK, I guess it's possible for the virus to become slightly more deadly, if it becomes even more contagious by the change. And as you say our actions are selecting which viruses get to infect others.

And I guess I could imagine some other disease that gets transmitted because of the death the host. And that could then evolve to be more deadly. But in general, more contagious and less deadly is how viruses are expected to evolve.

George H.

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George Herold

The terror factor needed a booster shot.

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jlarkin

Anthrax, for instance. It forms spores that can live for years in the soil.

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Phil Hobbs

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Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 
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Phil Hobbs

Nonsense. What happened is that the virus got so many victims, so many replicatons that could mutate to conform to human hosts, that it has had offspring with more agression . Naturally, those offspring are proliferating.

The disease did this, not the newscasters.

Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

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whit3rd

No, He's half right... GH

What happened is that the virus got so many victims,

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George Herold

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