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I just read about a disease caused by infection by the parasite Dracunculus
 medinensis, called Guinea worm disease.  It infects those drinking unfilte
red surface water.  There is no cure for the disease.  As the final stage o
f the worm's life it emerges from the body through a very painful sore so a
s to release tens of thousands of larvae.  

The disease can be prevented by filtering drinking water.  As it turns out  
there doesn't seem to be another host for this worm and it has a life cycle
 of about a year.  So there is an effort to focus on the affected areas and
 promoting safe drinking water habits.  Once the life cycle is disrupted lo
ng enough, the worm will be gone... for good.  

This disease affected millions of people in the 1980s.  By 2016 there were  
just two confirmed cases.  That is amazing.  If they succeed in eradicating
 the Guinea worm, it will be only the second disease to have been done so.  
 That's amazing!  

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On 1/26/20 3:15 AM, Rick C wrote:
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It's remarkable there doesn't seem to be any systemic medication that  
can touch it; in the 21st century the old-fashioned method of carefully  
pulling the lil bastard out over time still seems to be the best.

Even metronidazole doesn't seem to kill it, oral metronidazole is a  
brutal drug that can take out bigger parasitic targets than just bacteria.

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On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 4:14:03 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
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ulus medinensis, called Guinea worm disease.  It infects those drinking unf
iltered surface water.  There is no cure for the disease.  As the final sta
ge of the worm's life it emerges from the body through a very painful sore  
so as to release tens of thousands of larvae.
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out there doesn't seem to be another host for this worm and it has a life c
ycle of about a year.  So there is an effort to focus on the affected areas
 and promoting safe drinking water habits.  Once the life cycle is disrupte
d long enough, the worm will be gone... for good.
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ere just two confirmed cases.  That is amazing.  If they succeed in eradica
ting the Guinea worm, it will be only the second disease to have been done  
so.  That's amazing!
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They mentioned that pulling the worm out can create problems if the worm sn
aps in half.  The worm may still create problems if killed by drugs.  There
 is an eye disease caused by a worm infection which only gets worse if you  
kill the parasite.  I think they call it river blindness.  

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Re: OT: A Possible Second Disease to be Eradicated from the Earth!
On 1/26/20 4:17 AM, Rick C wrote:
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Yeah it's a question of which is "better" having a large open lesion or  
lesions that can be an entry point for secondary infections or keeping  
the skin barrier intact and having a potentially ~1 meter long parasite  
croak inside you and what are the risks of just leaving it up to the  
immune system to handle the disposal. It'll handle it somehow but I bet  
that's risky, too, particularly in some patients who might not be that  
well-healthy to begin with.

Neither seem particularly appealing...

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bitrex wrote:
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It's remarkable - unbelievable really - that China could have a  
government for so long that micromanaged how everyone did everything and  
yet they never managed to change their farming methods so they wouldn't  
be the disease incubator of the world.  That's scientific socialism for  
you.




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On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 8:38:27 AM UTC+11, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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Actually, it's grinding poverty - China hasn't got enough fertile land to f
eed it's population, and is now very cautious about changing agricultural p
ractice in case it cuts into food production.

Mao's Great Leap Forward killed somewhere between 18 million and 45 million
 people between  1958 and 1962, and the survivors learned the lesson.

There's nothing particularly socialist about central government micro-manag
ement - Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the "leading role of the party" got him  
and the proto-Communists thrown out of the international socialist movement
 in 1871, with some rather prescient prophecies about it leading to a worse
 tyranny than the Tsar's.

The Communist Party in China is just one more criminal conspiracy - the big
gest protection racket in town - if a reasonably well-educated and competen
t one.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney


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On 1/26/20 10:20 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
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China looks at the Trump Party and wonders why it took so long for  
America to catch up to them in the philosophy-of-governance department.

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On 1/26/20 10:20 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
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You'd think Conservatives would appreciate the conservative approach  
China still takes to many industries. They often do things in the  
old-fashion and have an appreciation for traditional methods.

e.g. coal and steam power aren't historical curiosities in many areas  
even in the 21st century. Chugga chugga chugga:

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Yeah, some people are nostalgic for slave labor.



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On 1/27/20 1:09 AM, snipped-for-privacy@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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The for-profit prison industry sure seems to be...

<https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289

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On 1/26/20 4:38 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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They micromanage the things they micromanage. Authoritarianism is  
actually pretty lazy and doesn't like handling potential problems in a  
timely, nuanced, or equitable way. So they let problems go and hope  
they'll fix themselves or go away, like selling potentially hazardous  
food products.

The risks are possibly predictable but it's hands-off approach until  
something really serious happens, kick the can down the line, oops  
suddenly people are dying! Ok, clamp down hard, stop everything, find  
the people responsible and imprison/execute them, ban the entire thing  
(whatever it is) and even some tangential legitimate practices while  
you're at it. You see, we're doing it for the good of The People. And  
think of the Children. We must be tough.

All thuggish authoritarian power-structures tend to operate this (lazy)  
way, down to homeowner's associations and PTA organizations. But every  
power-structure is in some part authoritarian it's a matter of degree.




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On 1/27/20 12:23 AM, bitrex wrote:
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That is to say when all you have is a hammer every potential problem  
looks like a nail



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On 2020-01-26 03:15, Rick C wrote:
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Eeeek!  You horrible person! People are deliberately causing the  
extinction of another precious species, and you're cheering!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Re: OT: A Possible Second Disease to be Eradicated from the Earth!
On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 4:51:35 PM UTC-5, Phil Hobbs wrote:
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Yes, parasitic worms aren't the only things that should be eradicated.  

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