Net neutrality

Jun 04, 2011 72 Replies

Yeah, I do. The first BBSs (Bulletin Board Systems) were on private lines; admittedly phone company wires, but they weren't subsidized, merely regulated.

And the seeds of USENET started up between two unis with mainframes, and two of the profs would exchange basketball scores over a leased line.

When the infrastructure was pretty much in place, then DARPAnet got started on the taxpayers' (i.e., your) dime, but the foundation was already there.

Hope This Helps! Rich

Haven't you swapped the in-store locations?

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Never heard of DirectNet? 3G phones give better data rates though.

Yeah, but..the Hughes system has randumb outages (not realted to weather) up to weeks with no explanation or rate adjustments.

Looks like I won't need to go to WV, here's my son Aaron's garden proceeds...

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He's the son that is a programmer. He bought some farmland in San Tan Valley a year or so ago.

He also has blueberries and strawberries, but they're not ready for pickin' yet ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Looks tasty! You surely won't starve...

...although you probably will end up eating less meat. :-)

I'm told that the berries you get today aren't as good as they one from (many) decades past in that they've been breed to withstand transportation, but the taste suffered as a result. I.e., if you can still get old lines of berries locally, it's preferble.

---Joel

He also has chickens, and (unfortunately) there's rabbits everywhere ;-)

Yup. Home grown are best. ...Jim Thompson

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They get to install their equipment in the public right-of-way, or utilize the public airwaves.

-- Paul Hovnanian mailto: snipped-for-privacy@Hovnanian.com

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Not without paying "rent".

And not without paying a license fee. ...Jim Thompson

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| 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Neither absolve the telecoms from abiding by other requirements as well.

For example, when I worked for the local power company (who used the public right of way and paid rent) we still had regulations requiring us to serve all customers in our territory and restrictions on our terms and fees for providing that service.

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For a monthly charge for every foot of it.

It's easy to think outside the box, when you have a cutting torch.

True. If the telco/cable company wanted the higher price for installing facilities over which they can do whatever they want, they should have said so.

Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ "The beauty of a chainsaw is that you don't have to start it. Just show up with it." - Joe Walsh, on checking in to hotels

Cable had little choice in the rate, and often had to pay for new poles because there wasn't enough clearance between the other users when the system was being built. Underground was more fun. We had to use a cable locator service for every foot of it, but Telco and the electric company frequently trenched right through our coax & 2" or larger schedule 80 PVC conduit, because they didn't follow the rules they had set.

It's easy to think outside the box, when you have a cutting torch.

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