Net neutrality

Yeah, I do. The first BBSs (Bulletin Board Systems) were on private lines; admittedly phone company wires, but they weren't subsidized, merely regulated.

And the seeds of USENET started up between two unis with mainframes, and two of the profs would exchange basketball scores over a leased line.

When the infrastructure was pretty much in place, then DARPAnet got started on the taxpayers' (i.e., your) dime, but the foundation was already there.

Hope This Helps! Rich

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Haven't you swapped the in-store locations?

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josephkk

h-outs

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Never heard of DirectNet? 3G phones give better data rates though.

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josephkk

Yeah, but..the Hughes system has randumb outages (not realted to weather) up to weeks with no explanation or rate adjustments.

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Robert Baer

Looks like I won't need to go to WV, here's my son Aaron's garden proceeds...

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He's the son that is a programmer. He bought some farmland in San Tan Valley a year or so ago.

He also has blueberries and strawberries, but they're not ready for pickin' yet ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Looks tasty! You surely won't starve...

...although you probably will end up eating less meat. :-)

I'm told that the berries you get today aren't as good as they one from (many) decades past in that they've been breed to withstand transportation, but the taste suffered as a result. I.e., if you can still get old lines of berries locally, it's preferble.

---Joel

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Joel Koltner

He also has chickens, and (unfortunately) there's rabbits everywhere ;-)

Yup. Home grown are best. ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

They get to install their equipment in the public right-of-way, or utilize the public airwaves.

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Not without paying "rent".

And not without paying a license fee. ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Neither absolve the telecoms from abiding by other requirements as well.

For example, when I worked for the local power company (who used the public right of way and paid rent) we still had regulations requiring us to serve all customers in our territory and restrictions on our terms and fees for providing that service.

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For a monthly charge for every foot of it.

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Michael A. Terrell

True. If the telco/cable company wanted the higher price for installing facilities over which they can do whatever they want, they should have said so.

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Cable had little choice in the rate, and often had to pay for new poles because there wasn't enough clearance between the other users when the system was being built. Underground was more fun. We had to use a cable locator service for every foot of it, but Telco and the electric company frequently trenched right through our coax & 2" or larger schedule 80 PVC conduit, because they didn't follow the rules they had set.

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