Mass production of revolutionary computer memory moves closer with ULTRARAM TM on silicon wafers for the first time

"Extrapolated"...

Such nonsense doesn't belong in a scientific paper - it's just there for a headline-grabbing effect. Haven't these people heard of catastrophic failure from unknown and unplanned-for causes? I'll bet in the 50s people were talking about the "thousand-year germanium transistor which, unlike valves, would never fail". Yeah - until tin whiskers appeared.

On a sunny day (Fri, 7 Jan 2022 07:50:19 +0000) it happened Jeff Layman snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid wrote in <sr8rbs$duf$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Those tin whiskers are from the housing of the transistors. My OC71 etc are in glass tubes (painted black) and still work fine. You do not expect those guys to test for 1k years now do you? All we do is based on extrapolations. read the paper, looks like normal silly-con to me.

"Other whiskers are available", although somehow I don't expect glass whiskers to become a problem:

Not true. You can have absolute figures based on real-time testing. I used to work in the pharmaceutical industry. The company released a new product with a shelf-life of 2 years based on real-time data. It looked good for at least 3 - 4 years based on extrapolation, but it very unexpectedly, and unpredictably, failed testing at 27 months, dropping from something like 96% of label to around 68%. The company and the Regulatory Authorities were content to stay with a 2 year shelf-life.

:-)

On a sunny day (Fri, 7 Jan 2022 09:18:54 +0000) it happened Jeff Layman snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid wrote in <sr90hv$d62$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Seems like the time covid jabs work, not at all for new variants, But read what I wrote, 1 k years cannot be done in realtime, you need extrapolation. The Farmaceutical Industrial Complex experiments with crap medicines on the masses, from opiods to mRNA crap and thousands died from side effects or are permanently disabled. The war criminal Faucy who facilitated the 'function enhancement' of the virus is their best friend, protected and elevated by the corruot politicians to a god like status, but is like somebody setting cars on fire so others can sell new ones. All US work of course.

Universities churn out revolutionary breakthroughs weekly, or maybe daily. To the nearest 0.1%, none work out.

Not a sensible description of what happens. Universities aren't claiming 'revolutionary' in general, just reporting progress. The dramatic descriptions come from news reporters, and popularizers, and promoters, who are all non-academic folk whose affiliations are with the entertainment press.

Drama, more than accuracy, is an asset for the entertainment press.

Most universities have a press department that hypes these miracles.

Yup. Plus the funding agencies went Hollywood about 1990. Remember 'nanotechnology'?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Well probably so but if this delivers not 1000 years (as extrapolated), just 100 years of data retention it will be groundbreaking. If (which is a biggish if of course) this works this will spell the end of magnetic storage as we know it (and it will be a shame, today's disks are really great pieces of engineering).

On a sunny day (Fri, 07 Jan 2022 10:20:30 -0800) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

The pictures in the paper of the silly-con look very doable to me. Sure we will have to wait for it to be in the local shop.

Same for the 1000% better battery. And the kwantuum computah.

But things do move.

Amazing what you can get on an SDcard these days.

Do I! I did get a free trip to London and Oxford, and some worthless stock shares, out of what turned out to be a nanotech scam. Tomographic atom probes.

It was worth it. Oxford is magical.

Hard drives are great. But keep backups. RAID is good too.

There are semiconductor storage chips that are (somehow) rated for

It's funny watching how this guy thinks. In this case he creates a straw man to criticize, even though he doesn't point out a single one, including the one responsible for this article.

Some people live unhappy lives and feel the need to create excuses for that.

Cambridge is better :)

I remember walking along the Cam river past that crooked peer's house. Nice town, nice University.

DipCompSci + CUUEG? John

Grantchester, I presume?

I backup on DVD-s, apart from more than one HDD (and more than one partition on these). In the 80-s, when all I had were 8" floppies on the least reliable drives I have seen (sort of a Bulgarian clone of some I think) I learnt the lesson that a single backup is not enough... I am saying this with my fingers crossed of course, you never know.

Somehow I can't make myself trust these tiny charges. Not that I don't rely on them, I use flash and I did use eproms etc. all of my life while designing systems but here I am.

We dump all the company server files onto a fresh USB hard drive, every two months. Those are treated as write-once devices, never to be written to and probably never to be even connected to a computer again. A 2 Tbyte drive costs around $60 now.

There are basically no floppy drives around any more. I wonder how long USB ports will appear on PCs, until we go all wireless. Probably a long time.