Magnet question

Where does a magnet get its power?

Why doesn't this source run out?

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FiNOH
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FiNOH

It doesnt have any power, stick it in front of a stationary coil, it will not "create"any electron flow in the coil.

But if you move the magnet infront of the coil, there will be electron flow in the coil, which could power something, so "you" provided the power

martin

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martin griffith

I can only differenciate your question.

It is of premade structure, made in the time before the physics began as we know and live them. Similar to Gold, made in the inner core of the Sun, with a temperature, which is nowhere else available as in the sun itself. Therefore it is a so much burned down spare-material (at 6mrd degrees Celsius), that it cannot be transformed (oxidizing... which is a kind of burning, but too slow for our reception) any further. This also means, if you wish to make gold, you have to find such a hot source as it is in the sun. The other ingredients are mystic.

And a magnet to make, would also need the reactions which made it. Maybe it was the Explosion of our Mother Sun, because the Sun is the only Object known, which can polarize its poles on the same point. Who knows how some irons had reacted to that inimitable moment.

Hmmm, the iron (a normal dumb piece of iron) is also not running out. Why should the magnet do so?

Best regards,

Daniel Mandic

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Daniel Mandic

It doesn't have any.

See above.

John

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John Larkin

On 8 Oct 2006 12:19:22 -0700, "FiNOH" Gave us:

From the atoms being aligned. it magnifies one of their energies in a like plane.

The word for today is entropy.

Maybe one day it will... when all atomic particles stop moving. Not likely any time soon though.

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JoeBloe

On 08 Oct 2006 20:09:48 GMT, "Daniel Mandic" Gave us:

Man, what a dick!

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JoeBloe

so all the usenet will turn to 0 K.

All this wisdom will be lost

martin

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martin griffith

Yes, it's also not running out. ;)

Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

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Daniel Mandic

There is energy stored in the magnetic field around a permanent magnet.

That energy DOES run out at high temperature, the so-called 'Curie temperature' named after Monsieur Pierre Curie, but at low temperatures there is a quantum effect, sometimes called 'exchange force', sometimes called 'Hund's rule', that favors aligned electron magnetic moments.

So, the energy in the magnetic field is stuck, and doesn't run out, except in nonmagnetic materials and at high temperatures in magnetic materials. Some heat disappears when the magnetic material becomes magnetized on chilling below the Curie temperature, which provides the stored energy.

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whit3rd

Power is work per unit time.

Work is force times distance.

A magnet has an attractive force, but the distance is limited, once the pieces click together, you can't get any more work out of it. Then you have to pull the pieces apart, supplying work to return the parts to their original states. And it's just as much work to get back to original state as you got from the first attracting part of the cycle, so there is no net work done.

Now there is a clever engine, where you heat the magnet above its Curie temperature, which lets you move the pieces apart with little or no work. But the dang law of conservation of energy seems to hold anyway-- it takes much more heat to do this than you ever get back out. Dang.

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Ancient_Hacker

Hi!

Pulling energy into something to find something new?

The world would not be technically so far, when every unknown materie/science had been processed with auxiliary energy.

E.g. electric eel.

Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

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Daniel Mandic

think of magnet like a rock with a billion little micro springs attached to it and everything magnetic near it, there is stored energy, but if you use it you have to add work back into it to restore it, a magnet is just a vessel to hold potential energy

gravity works the same, except the springs are attached to everything around it

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bungalow_steve

Wrong - gold gets made in supernova explosions (by neutron capture from iron, along with every other element heavier than iron).

Our Sun doesn't make gold, and we wouldn't survive the event if it ever did - but it won't. The earth won't survive the Sun's transition to a red giant on the way to becoming a white dwarf, but we should be able to lead before then (if we haven't gone extinct or evolved into something very different by then, as seems very likely - we've got another five billion years to go, and it only took 500 million years to get from the most primitve multi-celled animals and plants to us.)

I've snipped the rest the posting - it seems to be just as wrong.

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bill.sloman

We can only hope! ;-)

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Michael A. Terrell

This is just Theory. There is an other Theory without a supernova, called Mayas.

You should learn the basics.

Good Bye, DR. Wrong!

Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

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Daniel Mandic

Gets made.... pah, :-))). ts, ts, typical.

1980 they (official status of the known and accepted science) told me, the big bang is the start-point of our sunsystem. Now we know it's over twenty MRd Years old and no end/beginning in sight ;-)

Gold might 'have been' made in/while Supernova explosions...etc.

Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

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Daniel Mandic

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John Fields

Huh? Fall? Where is the Button for E (Ground)? I want to get up!

Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

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Daniel Mandic

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:41:45 -0500, John Fields Gave us:

We could "make" gold from mercury, but the process would be more costly than the product.

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JoeBloe

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