Low volt noise gen

He did specify that the input pins were grounded. In real life, simple chips like this tend to run the input stage at high currents, which skews things towards low voltage noise and high current noise. So if the input were driven from a reasonable non-zero impedance, or just left open, there would be a bunch more noise.

Amplifiers with grounded input pins tend to have a bad s/n ratio, especially if you measure it in dB.

I wonder what's the absolutely worst noisy amplifier thing around. I recall seeing opamps that ran over 100 nv/rthz somewhere.

John

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National's LMC6044, cheap, low power, CMOS quad opamp is getting pretty close with an excruciating 83nV at 1kHz. Was my second user experience with these new fangled device. First time round was the totally rubbish LM660. Now, I just love the more recent CMOS opamps!.

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john jardine

Cool. Using all four stages, with the first as the noise gen, you could get all the noise you could ever want. Maybe sum the first two as the generators and use the other two as amps, for slightly better statistics.

The old MF10 switched-cap filter was awful. PSRR was also nil, or maybe worse than nil.

John

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John Larkin

So was the LM359 "improved" Norton amp that they did all those active filter app notes on. Horrible. The LMF100 is much much better than the MF10.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

John, I can't find a datasheet for the LM660, but I was interested in using the LMC662 which may be similar. Besides the 22nv/rootHz noise, is there anything else that causes you to dislike the part? Regards,

Mike Monett

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