Long flight - Spirit Airlines - No chargers - only HP Stream 11 Windows 10 laptop

Jan 09, 2025 Last reply: 1 year ago 15 Replies

Was on a long flight on an Airbus 320 series jet from Spirit Airlines which I had never flown on before and I found there are no electrical chargers.



No USB outlets. No electrical outlets. No reclining seats. No seatback entertainment. No seat pouches. Nothing.



So I used my phone until it was dead, and then a tablet until it was too.



Halfway through the flight realized I had my laptop so I plugged a USB-A cable into the shut-down folded-closed tiny HP Stream 11 laptop.



But it didn't charge anything via the (shut down) laptop USB-A port.



If I opened the laptop (still shut down) it still didn't charge out the USB-A port to a phone - but if I booted to Windows 10, then it did charge.



Why?



Is this normal Windows 10 behavior? Or is this normal HP laptop behavior?



Why doesn't an HP Win10 laptop USB charge when it's folded & turned off?


Not all usb ports supply power when in suspend or shutdown. My Dell has 2 ports, one is labeled power delivery I think that's the term. anyway, one does and one does not deliver power when turned off.

It is configurable, Arlen.

You're dead wrong. It's not configurable. What made you think it was?

Short answer is *because* it is turned *OFF*.

If a laptop didn't completely shut down all of its electronics apart from the on/off button then the battery life would be terrible.

It has to be on for the USB ports to provide power out and then it may well negotiate a higher charge rate with your phone if it is USB C.

I carry a power block for long journeys since working USB charging ports on flights is far from guaranteed.

Wrong. My Acer Swift Edge has four USB ports of which one Type 3.2 provides power-off charging. It depends entirely on the laptop and the port, the version of Windows is irrelevant.

Not wrong, but 'it depends'.

Sure, a laptop which *does* have USB PD (Power Delivery), can provide power-off charging.

But for a laptop which does *not* have USB PD, MikeS is correct that the laptop has to be on to provide a little power to the USB ports, upto

500mA for USB 2, upto 900mA for (non-PD) USB 3. (For non-PD, a USB-C USB 3 port can theoretically provide upto 3A, but that's not likely.)
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But what you have done on each Windows version is relevant.

We don't have a precise model number. This is what a precise model number looks like.

HP Stream 11-ah117wm

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and the machines in that product line, are low end. (Modern OSes don't have a lot of pep on 2C 2T.)

If you had sufficient warning this would happen, you could carry a power bank.

"Can you take Anker 737 on a plane? Yes, it's allowed in your carry-on as it falls below the 100 Wh limit."

I suppose you could place a solar panel up against the window and pretend you're camping. There is a larger power bank that has a solar input, but that one would exceed the 100wh limit, if that's what the limit is. Maybe you could hide some batteries in your shampoo bottle :-)

Paul

My Lenovo's have USB power capability in standby or power off modes. However, that needs to be turned on in bios. Perhaps yours is similar... Did you look in bios?

Laptops with USB 3.2 with power off charging are not all that common.

The version of Windows/Linux/iOS is irrelevant but most laptops in circulation at present require that they are switched *on* and running before any of the external USB ports are powered up.

Otherwise you end up with your USB coffee warmer/fan discharging its battery when it is notionally switched off and sat at your desk.

Desktop PCs are often the other way around with some, possibly all USB ports powered for basic 500mA use even when the box is nominally off.

He should have booked with FOSS Airlines: Free, no ads and all the power and privacy he wants. ... Oops!

But indeed, it's configurable. As I wrote, with any laptop, you should at least get 500mA out of it, with a little luck 900mA. Not much for charging a smartphone, but probably enough to keep it running.

I would simply power off my phone if I suspect it can be discharged on arrival. I might actually need my phone there.

I understood his laptop could be double boot. The same laptop can be configured differently on each boot. Modern laptops can configure on bios what ports, if any, will supply charge when the laptop is off. And, at least on some laptops, you can reach the bios configuration from inside Windows.

Excellent :-)

And keeping within the Airbus style of doing things too.

"Keep your seat back and chair table in the upright position" "i-2-3 crank, let me see some more crank, 1-2-3 crank..."

Paul

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