Level of the DSL pilot tone?

I don't think PPPoE uses IP...

isp home modem router . . . . . . . . . . LAN ADSL \\ \\ . . Ethernet . . ethernet PPP ---------\\ \\------------ ------------- --------- IP --------------/ /--------------------------------- | ================/ /=================================================== -------------\\ \\---------------------------------- | ---------\\ \\------------ ------------- ---------- . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

IP isn't the only network service than can be provided over ethernet or over PPP for that matter. Often (but not always) a device that combines the modem and router is used. Using a separate modem can reduce hardware cost in extreme situations where cheap modem/routers get "gummed up" and need to be reset. We had a modem-router at work that would stop accepting inbound connections at random times, we switched it to modem only mode ("passthrough") and used a linux box to do the ppp and router function. Reliability has improved.

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That works with ipconfig, I just tested it. I had forgotten that you can "pipe" into "more".

/p for "pause" seems to work for most commands, and is faster, but /p doesn't work with ipconfig.

I used to use | "pipe" to feed the output of one executable into another in batch files.

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Jim Thompson

Hello Jim,

That's not how they do it out here. It's all on top of the dirt. We had a wee brush fire down the road started by some stupid kid. It was out in minutes but the house behind it promptly lost cable.

We have a fox litter born here almost every year. The kits like to play with anything. Pull air mattress plugs and what it hiss, toss over a firewood stack and stuff like that. So we have to keep our yard "kid proof".

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Joerg

Hello Jim,

Thanks! Oh man, DOS knowledge seem to be fading from my brain just like a foreign language that I haven't used in a long time. This worked. But, no IP address for the modem :-(

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Hello Michael,

Yes, I can talk to the router but it's menu is a bit sparse. No speed or line tests at all.

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Joerg

Hello Michael,

Is it safe? I remember that whenever I entered that site in the past I got warnings and sometimes my router blocked it. Yesterday the ISP called, saying my modem might be slowing things down and coached me through their own speed test. Didn't work, guess the router blocked it.

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Joerg

Hello Tony,

AFAIK AT&T caps at around 1.5Mbit/sec for their DSL.

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Joerg

Ah, thank you. Not everything has a technical reason. :)

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Tony Williams

Hello Tony,

Or to put it more bluntly, at the end of the day everything has a financial reason ;-)

IIRC they used to have two tiers with the lower cost one being capped around 400Kbit/sec or so. Maybe they still do but with cable among the competitors that wouldn't make much sense anymore. In the really old days there even was a third tier but I believe not with the former Pacific Bell.

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Joerg

But note that this tier of service only costs USD 13/month.

There is also 3M/512K service at USD 18/month and 6M/608K service at USD 28/month.

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David DiGiacomo

Hello David,

Then you are very lucky. We pay $50 for 1.5Mbit/sec (AT&T). Lack of competition, I guess. You can get those $19.99 deals but that's only for new customers and the cable guys are really not much of a competition for some users because they are pushing the whole TV/web bundle. Plus I don't like the haphazard way they "lay" cable out here.

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Joerg

Nope, AT&T has the same prices everywhere, see

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An existing customer can get into the new promotion by signing a new 12 month contract or upgrading a tier.

Another option would be to transfer to another ISP such as DSL Extreme (same pricing at AT&T).

This is assuming you have your service listed as residential... DSL on a business line is higher.

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David DiGiacomo

Hello David,

Thanks. Interesting. I asked a similar question when dealing with those email issues and they said they didn't know and that the standard rate is $49.95. I'll call them again to see (that 1299 website doesn't work here).

Yes, but then you lose your first email address. Since I have my own web site it's not used much anymore but occasionally I do get an email from a really old client or their engineers.

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