Laser resonates with ceiling speaker to create a horrible ?ground loop?

Oct 30, 2022 Last reply: 3 years ago 7 Replies

Received a phone call from a client in regards to a new medical laser device. Whenever the laser is activated it causes a sympathetic loud hum in only one of the Valcom ceiling speakers - located relatively far away in the waiting room. Speakers closer to the laser show no symptoms. Haven't gone on-site yet. AFAIR, a sheilded audio cable feeds the speakers, and a LM386 drives them. The built-in Valcom LM386 amp uses a couple of exposed spade terminators, spaced about an inch apart, to connect to the audio line. Is it possible for the terminators to act as an antenna? Or, does this indicate a broken/incorrect ground? TIA. Danke,


We have no idea how the system is wired or where the hum is coming from.

You should go to the site and inspect the problem before posting.

Is the hum line frequency? Someone could use a cell phone and send you the sound.

On a sunny day (Sun, 30 Oct 2022 14:47:22 -0000 (UTC)) it happened "Don" snipped-for-privacy@crcomp.net wrote in snipped-for-privacy@crcomp.net:

I once had that problem in a building, differential audio (2 opposite phase and ground), but somebody had cut one of the audio wires... As it is far away looks like a possible connection problem.

You got me back on-track Fred, thank you. It helps to show up onsite with a battle plan. It's been years (not long enough in other words) since the last time Valcom speakers were debugged by me. And, of course they use the cheapest twisted pair available - not the luxurious audio line imagined by my mind. So, yes, somewhere in the ceiling the twisted pair for the obnoxious speaker must parallel the electrical outlet used by the medical laser. The Valcom speaker system is no longer used, so the simplest solution is probably to disconnect the twisted pair from the Valcom LM386 amp.

For the benefit of others in this thread, a "ground loop" implies a frequency of 60 Hz. Danke,

Not necessarily. A 50 Kilowatt switching power supply can generate all manner of frequencies. I've also encountered 180 Hz, caused by swapping a power neutral (white in the US) with safety ground (green) on a 19: relay-rack cabinet.

Joe Gwinn

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Yes, and if the laser has a simple line cord, a common-mode clamp on bead would be the first thing to try.

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