interviewing

On a sunny day (Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:42:38 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs snipped-for-privacy@electrooptical.net wrote in <t3f9o0$1jj7$ snipped-for-privacy@gioia.aioe.org>:

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When we interview EEs, of course we talk about electronics. We did that for 5 hours on Friday.

I prefer in-person interviews, where we can whiteboard architectures and circuits and things. Work together.

Personalities matter too of course, and that is best evaluated by working together for a while.

There is no typical autism. It's not an OGOD (one gene, one disease) like Huntington's, but it's the sum of hundreds of genetic effects. Some trends are called "autism" by some people, but that's an arbitrary prejudice.

You hate engineers because you can't understand the magic that we do. Lots of techs have that syndrome.

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There is a a single diagnostic category labelled autistic spectrum disorders. There's not a single cause of all the various similar disorders, but they do have enough in common that they tend to be treated by a single class of medical practitioners. This single category may be a bit arbitrary - there are always going to be borderline cases - but clinical practice is shaped by patient behavior, not the other way around.

Phil isn't any kind of technician. He knows his way around audio electronics pretty well and does understand what he is doing. You don't seem to - or you may just not be interested in what other people do, if they don't know enough about what you are doing to give the the kind of well-informed flattery that you crave, and don't seem to deserve.

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Completely wrong.

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Total IDIOT & Raving Ratbag snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org wrote: =========================================

** Only CONGENITAL LIARS post links like that. And clueless Google Monkeys like Da Slowman demented idiot.

It's really just the same as saying:

" .. proof of my (very likely wrong assertion is in their somewhere - so go find it Rover. "

Well, NO it f****ng ain't:

WOOF WOOF !!!

...... Phil

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** Re autism, JL postulated:

** The IEEE horseman got on his high one:.

** Purest ** gobbledegook ** having ZERO to do with my simple and very true claim.

That autistics have one characteristic thing in common.

...... Phil

If you are going to offer a job to one of the candidates at the end of the interview process then fair enough. What I don't like are vapourware jobs just intended to obtain free consulting from would be candidates.

Right now it isn't a problem in the UK almost everywhere is short staffed coming out of lockdown and it is very much a sellers market.

High functioning autistic engineers can be very good if suitably motivated and pointed at the right problems (as various security breaches of various US military computers will attest).

They can be a bit of a handful. Hope it works out for both sides.

The interview was one applicant and 5 of us. Also known as "we".

I do need people to share the blame.

Don't be silly. It would make no sense to spend time and money interviewing job seekers (which includes flying them to California for a few days and paying all the expenses) to get a few hours of questonable consulting. If we need consulting, we'd get someone good and pay them their rate.

Hiring is always scary. I hate to fire people, or have people walk out, but sometimes things don't work.

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** Jesus f****ng Christ Almighty !!!!!!

So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims. What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.

Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff. Might as well flip a coin.

..... Phil

Phil doesn't understand the autistic spectrum

1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot. You learn that from having multiple people interviewing.

Tabby puked up a hair ball:

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** Tabby makes completely ASD f***ed morons look smart.

FOAD Tabby.

Tabby puked another hair ball: ========================

** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU. ** No you don't.

FOAD Tabby

...... Phil

And he is himself in a constant state of rage.

I've consistently seen that >1 people pick up on points than 1 alone miss. Reasonably smart does not mean nothing gets missed. (It's why we have teams.)

Phil considers himself reasonable :)

Yup. Not the only one on here.

I've had enough exchanges with Tabby to consider Phil's response to be perfectly reasonable in this particular instance. Sadly, Tabby seems to be unwilling to make himself scarce.

We like to spend some time brainstorming with the applicant and the people he will be working with. A lot can get discovered, technically and otherwise. Why not?

I wonder what it would be like to work for Phil.