Howdy,
I'm trying to save some heat in an existing product, automotive application.
Anyone have a fave buck synch. switcher, Joerg-cheap? Vin: +12-28v Vout: +5v Iout: 4-5A n: >=90%
Howdy,
I'm trying to save some heat in an existing product, automotive application.
Anyone have a fave buck synch. switcher, Joerg-cheap? Vin: +12-28v Vout: +5v Iout: 4-5A n: >=90%
Please post _existing_ .ASC ...Jim Thompson
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Hi Jim!
There is no .ASC. It's a simple LM22676, nothing special.
I'm looking for either another part, or a cute way to bodge in a sync. rectifier to replace the catch diode.
This is an old trick from the Tek 7104 (IIRC) 'scopes: L1 _ _ _ _ ----+---' | ' ' '-----+----> Vout | | | | |/ --- C1 '---| Q1 --- |
There's probably a synchronous switcher chip around somewhere that does what you want.
But consider something like this as a starting point for discussion:
The SimpleSwitchers were pretty slow, so the gate might be persuaded to switch early, reducing shoot-through. If this works, it might add
40 cents to the BOM.-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation
Hey, you don't need the resistor!
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Probably. I spent some time searching, but the S/N is terrible-- DigiKey has >18,000 SMPS chips.
This one looks like a "maybe":
It's pretty nice, but not as rugged as the Simple Switcher's
43V Vcc(max).Here's my modernized version of the Tek technique:
======= .-.-.-. L1 .--+----+---' ' ' '----+----+---> Vout | | | | | | ,-' | | | | ^ D1 | | | | | | | --- C1
--. | === | ======= | --- | | | The SimpleSwitchers were pretty slow, so the gate might be persuaded
The LM22676 runs near 500KHz, so it's rather zippy for a SS. The best circuits I've sketched so far sense the inductor current via a tap, such that when you drive L1 the auto-transformer action cuts off the sych. rectifier automatically. Slick, but custom.
The smart thing is probably to use the AOZ1231 and be done with it, but then I've got to add load-dump over-voltage protection--Vcc(max)=28v is not enough. Ick.
Cheers, James
Assuming automotive means several 100k units/year, talk to Linear about their LTC3810. Comes in a 100V edition which is great for automotive. Unfortunately around $4 but that is the price for 100. If they can't come down enough, look for something similar. If you don't feel like sloshing through all the mfgs price lists tell your facvorites distributors "Find me something similar for a buck fifty". The external FETs are cheap. It allows higher frequencies so you save on the inductor.
Then there is this one, but haven't tried it myself:
-- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
That's a beauty Joerg. Stock is a bit scary, but it's a good prospect. Thanks!
Cheers, James
I found these recently - would need some help for automotive load dump (only 28V max) and reverse protection but dead cheap:
Vishay SIC402A £0.68 500 off from Farnell so in real numbers
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