Has Sanity Returned?

Sort of... just a rework of the family corporation arrangement... I am just about to do the big 7-0 after all ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Too bad; Congress needs one VERY badly...

Means Central Toke Officer; if you got 'em, smoke 'em.

..not much further to 77 Sunset Strip..

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Jim > O'Reilly's discussion panel the other night Jim > said exactly that... if they'd had an Jim > independent opportunity none of them Jim > would have hesitated to stab the Jim > others in the back.

I had missed that one. LOL I hope to see that before they stop recycling it.

Good point.

Yes, Jimmy, there is a sanity clause.

RL

Robert Baer wrote in news:I--dnZlL_o_zeX7XnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@posted.localnet:

IMO,a "sanity clause" would be "term limits".

ZERO "careers" in Congress.

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That sounds seductive but amateur congressmen and professional staff would probably just have the result of the un-elected staff running things even more than they do now.

Lack of expertise or knowledge is not necessarily a virtue (e.g., "Joe the Plumber").

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Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years

Sanity has returned for some

RogerN

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

My father made it to 90, but he didn't drink like I do... he had just a few shots at New Years ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Thank you, Virginia ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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So are you figuring you have better or worse chances of making it to

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Good question. Probably about even. I drink, he had lung damage from exposure to asbestos. ...Jim Thompson

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(rest of boilerplate narrow-focused Liberal hate speech, complete with derogatory terminology, snipped)

Do you have anything substantive to add to the discussion? So far you merely focus on and regurgitate the same old hatred I've heard from the Liberal Establishment about Murdoch ever since he got into the business.

Please don't tell me you actually consider any of the mass media to be "objective"; even you can't be that naive. Or do you disagree with my contention that like all of us, you tend to think information sources that agree with your prejudices seem to you to be "neutral" (and that the owners of the media outlets know this and deliberately tailor their output to their target audience's known prejudices)?

Do you not agree that all your complaints about Fox (except who owns them) apply to all other media?

Do you think the OP is correct? Are the members of the press corps closing ranks around Fox because of a principle, or from self-interest as I tend to think?

Is "fact-checking" a good thing only when it isn't used on Democrats' words?

Now that the Obama team has openly admitted trying to manipulate the information the press has to choose from when deciding what to publish (again, not that the practice is new or exclusive to either party, but the admission is), should the other members of the press corps be more ready to risk the ire and attempted marginalization the White House directed at Fox by fact-checking the White House's pronouncements, or should they just uncritically print what they're told to?

Mark L. Fergerson

Apparently, both "wings" are so incredibly sang-froid that the only thing they see is the spin. I just watched two BookTV installments of immense value to me personally - John Derbyshire's "We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism", which actually gets all.... empirical about weaknesses of the Left *AND* Right ( with Alan Colmes playing the devil's advocate quite well). The other was "Republican Gomorrah" by Max Blumenthal, a shamelessly liberal and provocative/polemic analysis of the Religious Right as it's evolved, invoking no less than Erich Fromm's "Escape From Freedom" ( something I consider one of the founding documents of *Neoconservatism!*) in a manner suspiciously seeming to be designed to *HELP* the Right. He pays lip service to an interest in whatever Progressivism has devolved into, but ... I could not help but attribute his principal theme as being aimed at people who will never buy this book.

The Republican Party is a sick puppy, and it seems that everybody is worried about it. Given the the Democrats are no less a basket case than before, the alternative looks like ... nothing. The abyss.

We *are* doomed. The shiny happy people have led us down the garden path.

People going around counting coup while the Republic "burns" don't impress me as addressing the very real and mounting problems we face. At least these two ( who nobody will listen to ) are thinking in a deliberate manner.

-- Les Cargill

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That's interesting. If you think that was hate speech you must live in some kind of touchy-feelly lets-not-upset-anybody-with-objective-facts kindergarten.

Murdoch isn't a particularly attractive figure and he is painfully willing to take his media outlets down-market to appeal to the less- discriminating customer, but he's no Berlusconi.

Respectable newspapers report facts that they can and have established. Obviously they are selective in what they report - people don''t read long stories, and both newsprint paper and putting ink onto newsprint costs money - but my experience is that right-wing news papers are rather more selective than the liberal press.

Nobody else gives Rush Limbaugh air time. What more do I need to say?

I suspect that it is principle rather than self-interest - Fox News degrades the image of the rest of the media, and captures customers, some of whom might otherwise support more respectable organisations if Fox wasn't peddling their seductive rubbish, so self-interest would have prompted the rest of the press to throw Fox News to the wolves

I hadn't noticed "fact-checking" being an issue in this discussion. Even Fox News still seems to have enough residual integrity to can a program that slandered Obama when it turned out the that reporters had got their facts wrong.

The "manipulation" by the Democratic campaign press office sounds entirely sensible, and perfectly ethical to me. They were in the business of giving the electorate a particular message, and they didn't want to give right-wing reporters and media the chance to tamper with message on its way to the electorate.

If you want to see this as "manipulation" rather than communications management, feel free, but - like your absurd complaint about "hate speech" - it does make you sound as if you don't have much idea of the way the world works.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

The Daily Telegraph - or Torygraph as it is known in the UK - is a thoroughly right-wing newspaper.

The Canadian who used to own it - Conrad Black is now incarcerated at the Coleman Federal Correctional Complex in Florida for stealing money from the companies he owned, but his editorial bias seems to live on

Unsurprisingly, the report doesn't point out that the issues that are driving down Obama's poll ratings are all issues that he inherited from the previous Republican regime. Dick Cheney's complaints about Obama's Afghan policy are particularly comical - if Bush and Cheney had paid any attention to Afghanistan, rather than ignoring it in favour of securing oil-rich Irak, Obama wouldn't be needing to find a policy on Afghanistan that offered some prospect of successfully unwinding the mess that Bush and Cheney dumped in his lap

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen.

On Oct 24, 10:24 am, Bill Sloman wrote: BS > And pigs might fly. Fox News is the odd creature BS > out because it isn't a news channel but rather an BS > entertainment channel, telling right-wing nitwits BS > the "news" that they'd like to hear. Their "news" BS > doesn't have much to do with the real world, but BS > that's right wing nitwits for you. BS > Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Do you watch FoxNews over there in Netherlands? Nijmegen is a particularly leftist town! Are you mainstream left there or extreme left there? Are you a socialist? (Pulling for the INTERNATIONAL?) What kind of job do you actually do for a living, Sloman?

[...] Nijmegen was liberated from German captivity by the British Grenadier Guards of the Guards Armoured Division, as well as elements of the American 82nd Airborne Division in September 1944. [...] As to this date Nijmegen is still known as Havana on the Waal among some Right-wingers. The Socialist Party, the Green Party and Labour have a solid two-third majority in City Council, making Nijmegen the only major city in The Netherlands with a solely Left-wing government.