Digital 'Scope Choice

Mar 01, 2012 44 Replies

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Well I've got this spec from Ebay for the scope JL recommended but I can't find any parameter for "record length" (whatever that is) anywhere on it. Is it called by different names or have I just missed something? Here's the link:

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Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

TEK used to spray a copper paint on the inside of some plastic cased items. The WFM90 was one example. (handheld video monitor/meter.) I discovered why some customers were having WFM90 cases melt and catch fire;the factory's copper paint masking was not right and it was put on the hole where the DC power plug entered,and shorted the hot side to ground,heating up the case....

I've seen foil used on the TDS200 series,and the really old 200 series mini-scopes.

Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com

Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

there are all sorts of metallic paints used for EMI shielding.

Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com

Fry's sell a similar paint. It works well. I use it for shielding old scanners that are decent radios other than the plastic case. Not exactly cheap. I think about $20 a can in the pre-Bush_Jr. years when gas was cheap.

I have never found that coating on manufactured good. Rather they embed the metal in the plastic.

While a Faraday shield is ideal, close enough can do wonders. Electronics that needs ventilation and still needs very low EMI (say TEMPEST) uses a filter that looks like a collection of small metal tubes in parallel.

My problem with Jones is what would take me a minute looking at something in print takes 5 minutes of his annoying video. I assume he makes money from Youtube. He is about as ready for video as Fred Figglehorn.

Its faster brother the DS1102E has recently undergone a sharp price cut. Saelig (and probably others) have it for $399.

I got one recently, and I like it... it's a very nice adjunct to a faster analog scope or two.

Dave Platt AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

From Rigol's own web page --

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-- it's 1Mpt. (The record length is just how many data points the thing can store ... since your screen typically has, perhaps, 500 data points displayed on it, it gives you some indication of how many "pages" worth of history of the waveform you can see. Note that many manufacturers spec the record length as the *total* memory, so if you're using two channels, it's divided by 2 for each channel.)

---Joel

I don't know--I watch DJ with some regularity, because he actually says what he means in an amusing way. He can get a bit tedious, but there's the fast forward button. I agree that he'd be more fun if he'd lose the "um"s.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

Moron, gas was $1.85 (less here) when your boy, Obummer, took over and raised them, as he promised.

You haven't looked very hard. I've seen it on the inside of computer cases and I've used it myself (though for ESD reasons, rather then EMI).

Because it has a higher ratio of space to blockage than a bunch of holes. The stuff is *expensive*, though.

oh,, yeah , did you did you? :)

btw, I do own the 100mhz version and also two of our guys at work have the 50mhz versions that are hacked however, even though those two now look like my 100mhz version, I can say with out a doubt that my

100mhz out of the box seems to look better at the high end of the spectrum than does either one of the two hacked versions.

Anything down below that, both models seem to work the same but I do see some extra noise on the hacked versions, even in the lower spectrum level.

If you're not picky, I guess It really much does not matter. I suppose it could also be the supplied probes, we didn't do a swap there to check.

Jamie

I beg to differ. I recall in 2007 I had flown to Norfolk, VA and back to Boston Logan. Gasline at the time was scraping $3 per galon.

Did Obummer take office in 2007? You lefties really aren't very bright.

We needed some more 'scopes for the latest trade show and bought a few Rigols. (I've got one for home use.) I've also got a low end TEK (1000B) that I prefer for everyday use. It's got a faster update rate.

Besides other issues, the X-Y mode on the Rigol is laughable. It must put a new point on the screen every 100ms or so.... I wonder why they even bothered to add that 'feature'.

George H.

Looks good in the brochure?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." (Richard Feynman)

I wish I knew what he was talking about myself? I do use the X,Y inputs on my Rigol to track a signal slope and It seems to work perfectly for me?

If It makes any difference, I am not using the hacked 50 to 100mhz version of the scope, I am using the 100mhz model out of the box.

Maybe he got the midnight express firmware upgrade?

Jamie

It probably depends on the time/div setting as well.

Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply indicates you are not using the right tools... nico@nctdevpuntnl (punt=.) --------------------------------------------------------------

cheap.

raised

The point is, in 2007 George W. Bush was the President. So you're the one who isn't the sharpest crayon in the box.

cheap.

raised

Here you guys go..

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Gas prices were quite volatile around the time of O'bama's inauguration.

peak of 4.12 average June 2008 trough of 1.61 around January back to 2.61 a few months later

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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