Coaxial cable to video sensor: sending DC 12V?

May 18, 2006 14 Replies

I recently bought a video bullet camera manufactured by ISCO that is powered by a coaxial cable (RG 58 type A) that carries both the power through the unit and the video signal simultaneously. It comes with a power supply that allows you to plug the unit into an AC outlet: you plug the coaxial cable (BNC connector) into the power supply, plug the power supply into the wall, and the video out signal comes from a BNC outlet in the same power supply. The video camera itself requires 12V DC, and the power supply takes the AC and converts it to DC for the camera.



My question: can I run this camera directly from a 12V DC battery (car battery)? I have no idea how a coaxial cable like this can carry both power and video signal simultaneously. For example, is there an adapter that I can plug the cable into that separates the power from the video? Then the power portion of the cable I could connect to the battery contacts, and the video portion I could then connect to a monitor.



Any help appreciated!



I'm sure it can be done. Have you asked the manufacturer if they supply something suitable ? I'd have thought it was a likely enough requirement for them to have considered this.

Graham

Rolf wrote: The RF is isolated from the 12v DCon the center conductor with capasitors. The RF pass through the capasitors the DC does not.

You'll also need to 'isolate' the DC adaptor output with an inductor too ( which passes DC but blocks the video signal ) .

Graham

Thanks for your replies.

I've tried contacting the manufacturer (in Taiwan) by email and phone, but have not received any response, hence the post to this group. It seems like a simple problem, all I would need is some kind of adapter that separates out the video from the DC. I don't have the experience to build one myself, unless there were some detailed step by step instructions published somewhere.

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A google for "phantom camera power coax" will give you all the leads you need.

Close to 40 years ago there was an over-the-air UHF TV channel that I couldn't receive because I was (literally) in the shadow of a mountain.

But 150' west in my back yard there was ample signal.

So I ran 18-24V down the coax to varactor adjust a UHF tuner (after level-shifting), then a 12V linear regulator to run the tuner itself, and piped back IF on the coax.

You just need to think through the filters to keep everything separated.

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Didn't it get mentioned that this is the way they power the mid-span amplifiers on Cable TV lines not too long ago?

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what you do is measure the paramters of the power unit and duplicate them splitting the video out will probably be fairly easy. but if you inject the power wrongly you'll destroy the camera. it may be possible to use part of the AC-powered adaptor but modifying it loses you the chance to use it as a reference...

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... and the impedance of the dc path normally may have to be raised by a suitable resistor or inductor.

If the rf is 50 or 70 Ohms, raising the dc path impedance is no big deal.

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Hello Jim,

A transistorized UHF tuner in 1966? With varicaps? Wow. Must have been expensive, couldn't possibly have come out of a scrapped TV since just before that they were all tubes and variable capacitors.

Was TV worth that effort back then? I remember as a kid Bonanza and Lassie were good, and "All in the Family" of course. But all those hit parades and talk shows? Nah.

Regards, Joerg

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So I can't count... it was more like 1977... almost _30_ years ago.

But I did _buy_ the tuner, but I don't recall where... it certainly wasn't on the web ;-)

It was ON-TV, the encoded XXX channel ;-)

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Yes, except CATV line amps are powered by a 60 VAC 30 Amp CVT transformer.

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Don... you are exactly correct about this technique having been used to power cable equipment. It used to be common practice in CCTV systems to power antenna mounted equipment and security cameras this way. It saved on construction costs in that the need for multiple 110v outlets became unnecissisary.

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