circuit design help

Nov 27, 2007 6 Replies

I am a 13 year old tinkerer i have built and played with various basic circuit components (transistors, resistors, capacitors, LEDs, etc., etc,) However i plan on making a device to make that is used to launch model rockets (Estes) that use a igniter that is triggered by running a current through it. I want to create a circuit that allows me to flip a Single Pole, Single Throw (SPST) switch,

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once this switch is in the on position a ready/warning light comes on then the person using the device will push a momentary switch
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photos/rapid/pshpsh.jpg) the device then after 5-10 seconds activates a relay which will set off the fuse and launch the rocket. All this could be housed in a project box from radio shack. I am a complete noob please include some sort of labeled diagram and maybe a part list.



With much thanks, Scats



PS: please make as simple as possible with parts available at radio shack.


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once this switch is in

Hey, I love rocketry! Got my first start with aerodynamics with it. Lots of years ago. Anyway, the first question: What kind of igniter current do you need? There are a couple different kinds, and it matters. Next...Why do you want to delay 5-10 seconds? Sounds a little scary to me. Easy to do, just I'd hate to have a hot rocket on a launch pad when someone comes over and says "gee, what's this???" So safety might be a concern.

While you are looking those things up, here is a link:

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It's got a lot of (old, but true) info on launch circuits.

I was thinking i could set the box down and a bout 10ish feet and run away almost like a fuse but an electronic version. i'm not sure the voltage but i should be able to play with it cause its on a relay but

12 volts should be more than enough. Heres what I use
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Fine.

You missed a step of basic rocket safety here. You need a keyed switch (either before, or as, this switch) so that you can take the key with you whenever you approach the launchpad, so that you are _certain_ that the launch circuit is dead, and cannot be accidentally turned on by someone else. You should use the type of keyed switch that can only have the key removed when it is off. Personally, I chose to put in both the keyed switch AND another switch, both of which have to be on to make the launch button live.

Seriously not fine. A lot can happen in 5-10 seconds. If you are trying to get further away (perhaps to take an angle measurement), use a longer wire, and/or some helpers to take measurements. The person pushing the launch button is responsible to be sure that it is safe to launch, and thus an automated launch delay is not an acceptable solution, as it could become unsafe to launch between the time the button is pushed and the time the rocket actually launches.

Well, mine is from parts found in an old Chevy and an old Saab, or was it a Volvo? Still gets used a couple of times a year. I keep thinking I'll come up with a new version, but I haven't actually needed to, so the first one I built (~30 years ago) stands. Made it to replace the unreliable plastic thing that came with the first rocketry kit I got.

Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

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A friend of ours has a site

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you may want to review. He uses radio to launch, but those are large amateur rockets.

For your application, I've used 100-200' telephone wire to trip for ignition. If you must have a timer, consider a 1 RPM motor that turns a hard wire to make switch contact on a flexible wire that is all visible. That way you can watch the wire turning prior to ignition.

Just to add, it's a lot easier to play a tape recording of all your steps going into launch, like a countdown. Things like wind, range safety, observers confirmed at the locations, the ignition procedure etc. oh yeah and play Major Tom between the instructions! Ken

cause i don't got any visco fuse or any fuse really plus its funner if you build/solder the circuit yourself

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