Ceres

affic jams going to work, shopping at the mall, then going home to their tr act home to "exist" for the remainder of the day. This cycle repeats day in and day out, day in and day out, day in and day out...

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Like you, for example. Get help.

Time to get back to keeping your mind vacant... go on now, like a good little vegetable.

Fred, you are just a wart on the ass of mankind. Try to find a hobby different from your present one.

I once got involved in black ice, on a banked railroad overpass in Nashville. Our car, other cars, and a school bus did 360++ motions and slammed into the guard rail. A flatbed with a load of live chickens, in cages, did the same and dumped all the chickens over the side onto the railroad tracks below. Carnage. Then the sand truck showed up, slid sideways, and crushed a car against the guardrail. Someone pointed out that they might have approached backwards, sanding their own path.

I loved watching my car dissolve.

Two *days* a year? Hardly. Maybe closed for an hour or two on two days a year. It's more like once every other year, on average.

You got that right! I'd have no trouble getting around in the worst weather if it weren't for the other *NUTS* on the road. Every time it rains it's like playing carroms on the roads.

That said, Atlanta and GDOT learned from last year and invested in a handful of plows and brine equipment.

That was back in what, the 1960s? When I traded in my last car, it was old enough to drive itself (17+ years), and had no visible body rust despite being driven all winter and parked outside through its entire life. (My garage was and remains full of irreplaceable technical items.) ;)

You're in Florida. Plano TX is right under the armpit of Oklahoma, in the southern plains. 'Tain't the same thing atall, atall, atall. Getting stuck in ATL in a minor snowstorm isn't an hour or two gig, I assure you (BTDT).

I hope so. Stupid not to, though of course brine is a very inefficient way to apply salt--it runs off as soon as there's the suggestion of a thaw, for a start. Sand and calcium chloride for my money, or sand and rock salt in a pinch.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Or just use tire chains, like ours. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

No, '00s. We moved from Vermont in '06 (then spent a year in NE Ohio).

The rear springs of my '01 Ranger rotted completely off. Well, the springs were fine but the frame where the springs attached was gone. They were just sitting on the frame. I bought a new truck the next week (and it sat in the garage). This was 18mos ago, or so.

Huh? I live about 20 minutes South of Hartsfield-Jackson Airport. The weather there isn't a whole lot diff rent than it is in my driveway. ;-)

It's actually the perfect solution for the problem. They pre-treat the roads with it so ice doesn't accumulate in the first place. The roads are generally pretty warm (frost line is less than 6") and it doesn't take much to keep them clear. Calcium Chloride is overkill and way too expensive. It's great for Vermont (though too expensive to put on roads). Georgia? Please!

(cross-sniping elided)

S'funny. When it rains in PHX AZ (three, four times a year) everybody for gets how to drive (including snowbirds if they've been there more than a we ek). Here in the Great Northwet everyone forgets how to drive when it doesn 't rain (also three,four times a year).

Mark L. Fergerson

One problem with intermittent rain is that all the oil and crud on the streets lubricates driving when it first starts to rain. That, along with driver skills, gets better after a few days.

I know about that but it's no excuse for native Phoenicians who all know about it too, nor relevant to the natives up here.

Mark L. Fergerson

All sorts of people drive, including a lot of people who have no clue about mechanics, acceleration, friction, combustion, or anything like that.