Building an interlock device for DUI parolee.

the URL, but the usual google search comes up with a lot of sites that all hang right around 40%.

Lies, Damned Lies, and then Statistics...

accidents caused by alchohol, and you are right, we should be paying attention to ALL the causes as well.

fatalities, and matches them up with who the victims are :-) If a person drives stupid and kills himself, that's one less person who is a threat to me, but if it happens that an impaired driver more often seems to injure or kill another, I would be concerned with that statistic more than others. If you want to kill yourself, be my guest. I just would prefer it if you didn't take me with you.....

Here is the footnote on that 20% figure from the web page I posted:

"1. Ross. H. L. Confronting Drunk Driving: Social Policy for Saving Lives. New Haven, Connecticut: Yale University Press, 1992, pp. 35-38; Reed, D. S. Reducing the costs of drinking-driving. In: Moore, M. H., and Gerstein, D. R. (eds.) Alcohol and Public Policy: Beyond the Shadow of Prohibition. Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1981. Pp.

336-387; Hanson, D. J. Preventing Alcohol Abuse: Alcohol, Culture, and Control. Westport, Connecticut: Praeger, 1995, p. 31."

Here is the URL again for your reading displeasure:

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Interestingly there is only the little check off on the accident report form to establish the statistic, and almost never any verification. A neighbor of mine is a police officer, he said that the rule is that in any MVA where there was no clear indication of a cause, check the "Alcohol involved" box. So the statistics are in error by the instructions of the police in many areas. In one case a man was involved in a single car fatal accident. His insurance would only pay if alcohol was not involved. The box was checked and it took his widow eleven years to collect her due, since the Police following their instructions said that in any single car accident at night was always to be checked as "alcohol involved."

"There are Liars, Damn Liars, and Statistics."

BTW: if the over 65 death rate could be brought down it would show a greater improvement! Work on that!

Do you think the cops are out to stop you from drinking? Perhaps it's a conspiracy! I'll buy that. A friend's brother's girlfriends' hairdresser once said that all cops are liars, and I'm now starting to believe it, based on the testimony of your cop friend. Why else would they make up those alcohol statistics? Of course, if your friend is a cop, he fits into that category too, so perhaps it's not true that they make up those statistics. Perhaps they are really telling the truth? Hard to say from the evidence. Perhaps we need help on this from alt.conspiracy.

"Everybody lies, but it's not important, because nobody listens" Nick Daimos

Are you over 65?

You may want to consider a respelling of your new 'nym. :-)

Tom

Heh. How 'bout that!! :-)

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That should be fun for the guy in the eighteen-wheeler behind.

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