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The latest is the best and most secure.

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I also run W98SE and I've found that ALL versions of Firefox still exhibit the problem of sucking up 100% of the CPU and causing my computer to lock up for the duration(which sometimes is measured in minutes). I've switched to Opera and have had no problems with it. Art

I also run W98SE and I've found that ALL versions of Firefox still exhibit the problem of sucking up 100% of the CPU and causing my computer to lock up for the duration(which sometimes is measured in minutes). I've switched to Opera and have had no problems with it. Art

You stutter post :-( Firefox does no such thing on more recent versions of Wimpows. ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

The latest is the most secure. To get it to run under Win9x, you need to install a 3rd-party kernel extension (KernelEx).

With small amounts of RAM and Win9x's lousy memory management you will find yourself closing the browser more often than you like. The modus is to pack the box with as much RAM as you can get to work. The *real* secret is to use the old MaxPhysPage trick:

*-conjuction-*+net+512.MB Waaay down on that page.

...also covered in Item 5 in the first section of AXCEL216's page:

*-*-*-*-MSCONFIG.EXE+512-20000+Q304943+Q184447 . . K-Meleon is a lightweight browser that uses the Gecko engine

--but it is incompatible with the Firefox extension/theme infrastructure.

*-*-Gecko-*-*-*-*-*+inc+Windows+Compatibility-with-Mozilla-extensions-is-*-limited+less-resource.intensive . . The SeaMonkey suite gives you both mail and browser using a common engine codebase (smaller memory footprint when doing tasks simultaneously than with Firefox + Thunderbird). It has some other stuff too (chat client, HTML editor, DOM inspector...)

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Q: Is it planned to set up a version of firefox 3 for Windows 98? The current installer and the systemsettings mention at least that I should use minimum windows 2000.

A: Firefox 3 does not work on Windows 98. This is because it requires some operating system features that are not present in Windows 9x

There's a later comment that there is a project that allows V3 to run.

Strangly, links on that page purporting to link to old versions seem to go to the 3.5 download page.

still works.

My Win 98 machines are running Version 2.0.0.20 which seems to be the last of that line.

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Version 2.0.0.20 was the last for W98SE.

I'm using it on 98SE, with Athlon XP2600+ processor and 512MB RAM. It does not strangle my CPU or lock up my computer. No previous versions of Firefox ever did either. And I can't find the download offered on Mozilla's site any more.

...unless you install KernelEx.

Many found FF3's "AwesomeBar" to be obnoxious and had to search how to disable that behavior. FF3.5 has added tweaks to alter that easily.

Yeah. For those who couldn't run FF3, their script that updated hyperlinks on pages made a complete botch of the FF2 - FF3 transition. These days it's gotten even worse.

"Artemus" wrote in news:hb5amb$rcr$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal- september.org:

W98SE,900 Mhz Athlon,640MB of ram

I can manage FF 1.x,but I mostly use Opera 9.64. According to the Mozilla site,FF2.x and up will not run on W98SE.

Opera does have problems with Townhall.com on the full-page+comments when the comments are more than ~100.

and neither will allow coupon printing,as I'm told that is based on Active- X that only IE has. :-(

I won't use IE at all.

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Huh? I print coupons all the time via Firefox v3..5.3 ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Note I was talking about my operating FF 1.X and Opera 9.64,not newer versions of Firefox.(which don't run on my OS,according to Mozilla)

Are YOU running FF 3.xxx on W98SE?

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What reason would one have for running W98SE? Arguably one of the worst OS's Microshit ever released?

I run Win2K on my PSpice machine, WinXP on everything else. ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

I look forward to you posting a link to the page that supports that claim.

contradicts you.

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I am using SeaMonkey 1.1.16

In many cases, yup. There are still a lot of incredibly stupid webmasters. They've also excluded the 8 percent that use Macs and the (by some estimates) 10 percent that use Linux.

Don't frown. ActiveX is a steaming pile that ASSISTS in system infections.

...for exactly that reason, one assumes. Browser Helper Objects are another IE-only steaming pile. Malware writers know about both and those are their main avenues to get their infections on your Windoze box.

If one *really* wanted ActiveX without Internet Exploder, he could install another copy of Firefox (a really old one) and make a separate profile for it (called e.g. "shopping") then install the old ActiveX extension into that Firefox version:

*-*-browsers-*-*-that-support-*-Netscape-Plug-in-*+Firefox.1.5+=a-broken-*+Does.not.work.in.*.other.version+ActiveX+Download-*-*-Plug-in+co=ntrol+to.display+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-legacy-*-*-*-*-*-*+Mozilla.1.7+NPAPI+exa=ctly+ignore+iol+controls&strip=3D1#introduction

NOTE: If you try to install that in the wrong version(s) of Firefox, HORRIBLE things happen. Scroll down a bit on that page.

...and JT's blathering is obviously not about the idiot sites that require ActiveX.

: >I also run W98SE and I've found that ALL versions of Firefox still : >exhibit the problem of sucking up 100% of the CPU and causing : >my computer to lock up for the duration(which sometimes is measured : >in minutes). : >I've switched to Opera and have had no problems with it. : >Art : >

: : You stutter post :-( Firefox does no such thing on more recent : versions of Wimpows. : : ...Jim Thompson : --

Yeah, sorry about the double post. Outhouse Express crashed when I was sending and I fired it up and resent it w/o checking the NG to see if it was already there.

I have other boxes with XP for the OS and Firefox will eat all the available CPU cycles on them too. Art

I am using K-Meleon 1. 1 + IE5.01sp2 ...

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Things got locked up at times. I was trying to clear cache and etc, and it would lock up. Then, Firefox would not load. I tried reinstalling but same thing. 3.5 will not install. I will try to find a ver 3 on this computer to install. I hate to fool with that computer, has, 98/ 2000 dual boot, but

2000 stopped working some time ago. Almost time to start from scratch. Too bad I can't get the last updates for 98.

greg

I was running 2.

greg